Wu Qu in the Children Palace: What Kind of Elder You Are

Wu Qu in the Children Palace means your way with the next generation is practical and disciplined, with a focus on ability and independence.

Raising and relating

People with Wu Qu here show care through actions: planning for the young ones and getting things ready for them, but not so good with warm words. The lesson is being too strict and too focused on results, so the relationship lacks a little softness.

You and the next generation: the Life and Children Palaces

With Wu Qu in the Children Palace, the Life Palace always holds Tian Ji: you are quick and think a lot, yet towards the next generation you are practical and big on discipline.

This is built into the chart: counting three palaces forward from Wu Qu always lands on Tian Ji, and the Life Palace always sits three palaces forward from the Children Palace. Further reading: Tian Ji in the Life Palace.

Partner and next generation

Counting one palace forward from Wu Qu always lands on Tai Yang, and the Spouse Palace always sits one palace forward from the Children Palace, so with Wu Qu in the Children Palace the Spouse Palace always holds Tai Yang: the shape of your partnership is often also the way the two of you face the next generation together. Further reading: Tai Yang in the Spouse Palace.

With Wu Qu in the Children Palace, the Parents Palace always holds Zi Wei and the Friends Palace always holds Lian Zhen. Zi Wei, Lian Zhen and Wu Qu always form a trine. The Property Palace star is not fixed.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, you raise a practical, capable next generation. In a neutral position you are too strict and the relationship gets tense. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Chou, Chen, Wei, Xu; Strong: Zi, Wu; Favorable: Yin, Shen; Fair: Mao, You; Neutral: Si, Hai.

Opposite the Children Palace is the Property Palace (the Children–Property axis: the next generation and home pull on each other), and its trine is the Parents and Friends Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Property, Life, Spouse, Parents and Friends Palaces for each of the twelve branches Wu Qu can occupy in the Children Palace.

Children Palace inBrightnessShares the palace withOpposite (Property)Your Life PalaceSpouseParentsFriends
YinFavorableTian XiangPo JunTian JiTai Yang and Tian LiangZi WeiLian Zhen and Tian Fu
MaoFairQi ShaTian FuTian JiTai YangZi Wei and Po JunLian Zhen and Tan Lang
ChenExaltedaloneTan LangTian JiTai YangZi Wei and Tian FuLian Zhen and Tian Xiang
SiNeutralPo JunTian XiangTian Ji and Tai YinTai YangZi Wei and Tan LangLian Zhen and Qi Sha
WuStrongTian FuQi ShaTian Ji and Ju MenTai Yang and Tai YinZi Wei and Tian XiangLian Zhen
WeiExaltedTan Langempty palaceTian Ji and Tian LiangTai Yang and Ju MenZi Wei and Qi ShaLian Zhen and Po Jun
ShenFavorableTian XiangPo JunTian JiTai Yang and Tian LiangZi WeiLian Zhen and Tian Fu
YouFairQi ShaTian FuTian JiTai YangZi Wei and Po JunLian Zhen and Tan Lang
XuExaltedaloneTan LangTian JiTai YangZi Wei and Tian FuLian Zhen and Tian Xiang
HaiNeutralPo JunTian XiangTian Ji and Tai YinTai YangZi Wei and Tan LangLian Zhen and Qi Sha
ZiStrongTian FuQi ShaTian Ji and Ju MenTai Yang and Tai YinZi Wei and Tian XiangLian Zhen
ChouExaltedTan Langempty palaceTian Ji and Tian LiangTai Yang and Ju MenZi Wei and Qi ShaLian Zhen and Po Jun

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Wu Qu with Tian Fu (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Wu Qu strong, Tian Fu exalted; Wu: Wu Qu strong, Tian Fu strong. Opposite Property: Qi Sha; Life: Tian Ji and Ju Men; Spouse: Tai Yang and Tai Yin. About 18.2% of charts with Wu Qu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Two wealth stars guard the Children Palace: you can give the next generation real resources and a steady backstop. The downside is that you rarely put feelings into words. Further reading: Tian Fu in the Children Palace.

Wu Qu with Tan Lang (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Wu Qu exalted, Tan Lang exalted; Wei: Wu Qu exalted, Tan Lang exalted. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Tian Ji and Tian Liang; Spouse: Tai Yang and Ju Men. About 15.8% of charts with Wu Qu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You value both practicality and interests, and put real effort into developing the next generation's talents and abilities. The old saying is that Wu Qu with Tan Lang does not bloom in youth; your relationship with the young tends to get better over time. Further reading: Tan Lang in the Children Palace.

Wu Qu with Tian Xiang (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Wu Qu favorable, Tian Xiang exalted; Shen: Wu Qu favorable, Tian Xiang exalted. Opposite Property: Po Jun; Life: Tian Ji; Spouse: Tai Yang and Tian Liang. About 15.1% of charts with Wu Qu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Practical and principled, you care about the next generation's ability and their sense of how to treat people; an elder very good at teaching how to get things done. Further reading: Tian Xiang in the Children Palace.

Wu Qu with Qi Sha (Mao or You)

Mao: Wu Qu fair, Qi Sha strong; You: Wu Qu fair, Qi Sha strong. Opposite Property: Tian Fu; Life: Tian Ji; Spouse: Tai Yang. About 17.2% of charts with Wu Qu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Your approach is tough and direct, big on independence and toughening up, and you easily butt heads with the next generation. A little more appreciation softens things a lot. Further reading: Qi Sha in the Children Palace.

Wu Qu alone, facing Tan Lang (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Wu Qu exalted; Xu: Wu Qu exalted. Opposite Property: Tan Lang; Life: Tian Ji; Spouse: Tai Yang. About 17.1% of charts with Wu Qu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Wu Qu is exalted in Chen and Xu, so your approach is practical and focused on ability; with Tan Lang in the Property Palace opposite, home is full of life.

Wu Qu with Po Jun (Si or Hai)

Si: Wu Qu neutral, Po Jun neutral; Hai: Wu Qu neutral, Po Jun neutral. Opposite Property: Tian Xiang; Life: Tian Ji and Tai Yin; Spouse: Tai Yang. About 16.5% of charts with Wu Qu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You expect a lot of the next generation and keep changing your methods, so the relationship has bigger ups and downs. Making your standards clear and consistent matters more than anything. Further reading: Po Jun in the Children Palace.

Birth-year transformations in the Children Palace

Getting along

Say "well done" out loud; Wu Qu's love needs to be something the next generation can hear.

About 42.6% of charts with Wu Qu in the Children Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.4% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Children Palace usually show up as more friction and more worry with the next generation, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship.

What our sample shows

8.9%of charts have Wu Qu in the Children Palace (alone or with another major star)
18.2%of those fall into the most common group: Wu Qu with Tian Fu
40.9%of those have a birth-year transformation on Wu Qu itself
42.6%of those also have a Sha star in the Children Palace

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s chances of having children or what their children achieve.

Other major stars in the Children Palace

Zi Wei in the Children Palacethe Emperor Star in the Children Palace Tian Ji in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Zi Wei Tai Yang in the Children PalaceLife Palace always holds Zi Wei Tian Tong in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Wu Qu Lian Zhen in the Children PalaceLife Palace always holds Tian Tong Tian Fu in the Children PalaceLife: Ju Men · Spouse: Tai Yin Tai Yin in the Children PalaceLife: Tian Xiang · Spouse: Tan Lang Tan Lang in the Children PalaceLife: Tian Liang · Spouse: Ju Men Ju Men in the Children PalaceLife: Qi Sha · Spouse: Tian Xiang Tian Xiang in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Tian Liang Tian Liang in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Qi Sha Qi Sha in the Children Palacethe Marshal Star in the Children Palace Po Jun in the Children PalaceLife Palace always holds Tai Yin

A straight word: the Children Palace is about how you relate to the next generation, not whether you will have children

The Children Palace describes your attitude, your style of raising and guiding, and what you pass on when you deal with children, younger relatives, students or team members. It cannot tell you whether you will have children, how many, or whether they will be boys or girls, and it cannot judge a child's wellbeing or achievements. Classical phrases such as "harming the children" or "late offspring" are not used on this site. Questions about having children or about health belong with a medical professional. Everything on this site is for reference and entertainment only.

Find out which star sits in your Children Palace

Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Children Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set.

Wu Qu in the Children Palace: FAQ

Why is Tian Ji always in the Life Palace when Wu Qu is in the Children Palace?

It follows from how the stars are placed. Counting three palaces forward from Wu Qu always lands on Tian Ji, and the Life Palace always sits three palaces forward from the Children Palace. So whenever Wu Qu is in the Children Palace, Tian Ji is always in the Life Palace.

How common is Wu Qu in the Children Palace?

Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.9% have Wu Qu in the Children Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Children Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.