Tai Yin in the Children Palace: What Kind of Elder You Are

Tai Yin in the Children Palace means your relationship with the next generation is attentive and gentle; you care a lot about how they feel and are good at the small details of daily life.

Raising and relating

People with Tai Yin here are gentle companions. When Tai Yin is bright, the relationship is close and warm; when fallen, you are just as attentive but tend to overthink and worry about the young ones.

• Parenting style: Attentive and gentle, focused on feelings and being there.
• With younger people and your team: With students and team members you are considerate and good at noticing what they need.
• What you create and pass on: What you pass on is thoughtful care and a taste for the finer things in daily life.

You and the next generation: the Life and Children Palaces

With Tai Yin in the Children Palace, the Life Palace always holds Tian Xiang: you value rules and are good at bringing people together, and towards the next generation you are gentle and attentive.

This is built into the chart: counting three palaces forward from Tai Yin always lands on Tian Xiang, and the Life Palace always sits three palaces forward from the Children Palace. Further reading: Tian Xiang in the Life Palace.

Partner and next generation

Counting one palace forward from Tai Yin always lands on Tan Lang, and the Spouse Palace always sits one palace forward from the Children Palace, so with Tai Yin in the Children Palace the Spouse Palace always holds Tan Lang: the shape of your partnership is often also the way the two of you face the next generation together. Further reading: Tan Lang in the Spouse Palace.

With Tai Yin in the Children Palace, the Parents Palace always holds Tian Liang: your elders tend to be mature and keen to look after you. The Friends and Property Palace stars are not fixed.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, the relationship is gentle and close, and the next generation feels understood. When fallen, you tend to worry about the next generation and drain yourself emotionally. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Zi, Chou, Hai; Strong: Yin, You, Xu; Fair: Shen; Weak: Wu, Wei; Fallen: Mao, Chen, Si.

Opposite the Children Palace is the Property Palace (the Children–Property axis: the next generation and home pull on each other), and its trine is the Parents and Friends Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Property, Life, Spouse, Parents and Friends Palaces for each of the twelve branches Tai Yin can occupy in the Children Palace.

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Tian Tong with Tai Yin (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Tai Yin exalted, Tian Tong strong; Wu: Tai Yin weak, Tian Tong fallen. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Tian Xiang; Spouse: Wu Qu and Tan Lang. About 17.3% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Gentle and attentive, spending a lot of time together, and the atmosphere is good. In Zi both stars are strong and the relationship is at its most settled; in Wu both are out of place, and the young ones' affairs can weigh on you. Further reading: Tian Tong in the Children Palace.

Tai Yang with Tai Yin (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Tai Yin exalted, Tai Yang weak; Wei: Tai Yin weak, Tai Yang favorable. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Zi Wei and Tian Xiang; Spouse: Tan Lang. About 16.3% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Sun and Moon together in the Children Palace: warm one moment and delicate the next with the next generation, and the relationship follows your moods. Chou leans towards quiet care; Wei towards outgoing time together. Further reading: Tai Yang in the Children Palace.

Tian Ji with Tai Yin (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Tai Yin strong, Tian Ji favorable; Shen: Tai Yin fair, Tian Ji favorable. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Tian Xiang; Spouse: Zi Wei and Tan Lang. About 16.2% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Attentive and a keen thinker, you often talk things over and plan with the next generation, and you look after their feelings. Your approach adjusts as you go. Further reading: Tian Ji in the Children Palace.

Tai Yin alone, facing Tian Tong (Mao or You)

Mao: Tai Yin fallen; You: Tai Yin strong. Opposite Property: Tian Tong; Life: Lian Zhen and Tian Xiang; Spouse: Tan Lang. About 17.3% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You are gentle and attentive with the next generation; with Tian Tong in the Property Palace opposite, home is gentle and comfortable. In You, Tai Yin is strong and the relationship is settled; in Mao it is fallen, and the young ones' affairs easily affect your mood.

Tai Yin alone, facing Tai Yang (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Tai Yin fallen; Xu: Tai Yin strong. Opposite Property: Tai Yang; Life: Tian Xiang; Spouse: Lian Zhen and Tan Lang. About 16.1% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You look after the next generation quietly; with Tai Yang in the Property Palace opposite, home is bright and lively. In Xu, Tai Yin is strong and the relationship is settled; in Chen it is fallen, and you worry more.

Tai Yin alone, facing Tian Ji (Si or Hai)

Si: Tai Yin fallen; Hai: Tai Yin exalted. Opposite Property: Tian Ji; Life: Wu Qu and Tian Xiang; Spouse: Tan Lang. About 16.8% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You are gentle and attentive with the next generation; with Tian Ji in the Property Palace opposite, home keeps changing and being adjusted. In Hai, Tai Yin is exalted and the relationship is at its warmest; in Si it is fallen, and you tend to overthink things with the young ones.

Birth-year transformations in the Children Palace

• Tai Yin with Hua Lu (born in a Ding year): People born in a Ding year have Tai Yin Hua Lu in the Children Palace: your relationship with the next generation is warm, and you look after them thoughtfully. In our sample, about 8.8% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
• Tai Yin with Hua Quan (born in a Wu year): People born in a Wu year have Tai Yin Hua Quan in the Children Palace: attentive but with firm views, and with clear ideas about how the young ones' daily life should run. In our sample, about 8.5% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace carry the birth-year Hua Quan.
• Tai Yin with Hua Ke (born in a Geng or Gui year): People born in a Geng or Gui year have Tai Yin Hua Ke in the Children Palace: your way of bringing up the young has taste and grace. In our sample, about 21.7% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ke.
• Tai Yin with Hua Ji (born in a Yi year): People born in a Yi year have Tai Yin Hua Ji in the Children Palace: you tend to overthink things with the next generation. Say your worries out loud instead of keeping them in. In our sample, about 10.5% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ji.

Getting along

Beyond looking after them, let the next generation know you believe in them.

About 41.9% of charts with Tai Yin in the Children Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.4% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Children Palace usually show up as more friction and more worry with the next generation, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship.

What our sample shows

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s chances of having children or what their children achieve.

Other major stars in the Children Palace