Tian Fu in the Children Palace: What Kind of Elder You Are

Tian Fu in the Children Palace means you are steady and thorough in your care for the next generation, making sure they have resources and a safety net.

Raising and relating

People with Tian Fu here are dependable elders who care a lot about the young ones' sense of security. The lesson is over-protecting, so the next generation gets fewer chances to go out and try things on their own.

• Parenting style: Steady and thorough, big on security and care.
• With younger people and your team: With students and team members you look after them well and are willing to share resources.
• What you create and pass on: What you pass on is stable resources and a family estate.

You and the next generation: the Life and Children Palaces

With Tian Fu in the Children Palace, the Life Palace always holds Ju Men: you are analytical and speak your mind, yet with the next generation you are very steady and caring.

This is built into the chart: counting three palaces forward from Tian Fu always lands on Ju Men, and the Life Palace always sits three palaces forward from the Children Palace. Further reading: Ju Men in the Life Palace.

Partner and next generation

Counting one palace forward from Tian Fu always lands on Tai Yin, and the Spouse Palace always sits one palace forward from the Children Palace, so with Tian Fu in the Children Palace the Spouse Palace always holds Tai Yin: the shape of your partnership is often also the way the two of you face the next generation together. Further reading: Tai Yin in the Spouse Palace.

With Tian Fu in the Children Palace, the Property Palace always holds Qi Sha and the Parents Palace always holds Tian Xiang: you guard the next generation steadily, while home itself often goes through changes. The Friends Palace star is not fixed.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, you give the next generation a deep, solid backstop. In a favorable position you care just as much but have less to give; with Di Kong or Di Jie, your urge to protect outruns what you can actually do. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Zi, Chou, Yin, Chen, Wei, Xu; Strong: Wu, You; Favorable: Mao, Si, Shen, Hai.

Opposite the Children Palace is the Property Palace (the Children–Property axis: the next generation and home pull on each other), and its trine is the Parents and Friends Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Property, Life, Spouse, Parents and Friends Palaces for each of the twelve branches Tian Fu can occupy in the Children Palace.

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Wu Qu with Tian Fu (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Tian Fu exalted, Wu Qu strong; Wu: Tian Fu strong, Wu Qu strong. Opposite Property: Qi Sha; Life: Tian Ji and Ju Men; Spouse: Tai Yang and Tai Yin. About 19.3% of charts with Tian Fu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Two wealth stars guard the Children Palace: you can give the next generation real resources and a steady backstop. The downside is that you rarely put feelings into words. Further reading: Wu Qu in the Children Palace.

Tian Fu alone, facing Lian Zhen and Qi Sha (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Tian Fu exalted; Wei: Tian Fu exalted. Opposite Property: Lian Zhen and Qi Sha; Life: Ju Men; Spouse: Tian Ji and Tai Yin. About 16.7% of charts with Tian Fu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Tian Fu is exalted in Chou and Wei, so you are a dependable backstop for the next generation; with Lian Zhen and Qi Sha in the Property Palace opposite, home has drive and pressure.

Zi Wei with Tian Fu (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Tian Fu exalted, Zi Wei strong; Shen: Tian Fu favorable, Zi Wei strong. Opposite Property: Qi Sha; Life: Ju Men; Spouse: Tai Yin. About 18.1% of charts with Tian Fu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

A steady elder with vision, who gives the next generation both direction and a solid backstop. The lesson is high expectations and a lot of protection; remember to let them make their own decisions. Further reading: Zi Wei in the Children Palace.

Tian Fu alone, facing Wu Qu and Qi Sha (Mao or You)

Mao: Tian Fu favorable; You: Tian Fu strong. Opposite Property: Wu Qu and Qi Sha; Life: Ju Men; Spouse: Tai Yin. About 15.7% of charts with Tian Fu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You are steady and caring with the next generation; with Wu Qu and Qi Sha in the Property Palace opposite, home is often built through your own hard work. In You, Tian Fu is strong and your backing runs deeper than in Mao.

Lian Zhen with Tian Fu (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Tian Fu exalted, Lian Zhen fair; Xu: Tian Fu exalted, Lian Zhen fair. Opposite Property: Qi Sha; Life: Tian Tong and Ju Men; Spouse: Tai Yin. About 15.3% of charts with Tian Fu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Principled and caring, shrewd and steady. This is the most stable Lian Zhen combination in the Children Palace. Further reading: Lian Zhen in the Children Palace.

Tian Fu alone, facing Zi Wei and Qi Sha (Si or Hai)

Si: Tian Fu favorable; Hai: Tian Fu favorable. Opposite Property: Zi Wei and Qi Sha; Life: Tai Yang and Ju Men; Spouse: Tian Tong and Tai Yin. About 14.9% of charts with Tian Fu in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You guard the next generation steadily; with Zi Wei and Qi Sha in the Property Palace opposite, you run the household with a firm hand.

Birth-year transformations in the Children Palace

Under the Four Transformations table of the Complete Book of Zi Wei Dou Shu, Tian Fu never transforms, so Tian Fu in the Children Palace never carries a birth-year Hua Lu, Hua Quan, Hua Ke or Hua Ji of its own. For transformations in how you relate to the next generation, look at any other star sharing the palace, at Lu Cun, and at the Property Palace opposite.

Getting along

Be their backstop, and also give the next generation the chance to fall and get back up by themselves.

About 43.1% of charts with Tian Fu in the Children Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.4% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Children Palace usually show up as more friction and more worry with the next generation, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship.

What our sample shows

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s chances of having children or what their children achieve.

Other major stars in the Children Palace