Tian Xiang in the Children Palace: What Kind of Elder You Are

Tian Xiang in the Children Palace means you value manners and rules with the next generation, and want them to be well behaved and considerate.

Raising and relating

People with Tian Xiang here are fair, reasonable elders who often act as the mediator at home. The lesson is caring too much about surface harmony, so what the young ones really think can get overlooked.

• Parenting style: Big on manners and rules; fair and reasonable.
• With younger people and your team: With students and team members you are fair and value team harmony.
• What you create and pass on: What you pass on is a good upbringing and a sense of how to treat people.

You and the next generation: the Life and Children Palaces

With Tian Xiang in the Children Palace, the Life Palace star is not fixed: it can be Tian Tong, Tai Yang or Tian Ji, or the Life Palace can be empty.

With Tian Xiang in the Children Palace, the Life Palace star changes with the branch; the table below lists it for each one.

Partner and next generation

Counting one palace forward from Tian Xiang always lands on Tian Liang, and the Spouse Palace always sits one palace forward from the Children Palace, so with Tian Xiang in the Children Palace the Spouse Palace always holds Tian Liang: the shape of your partnership is often also the way the two of you face the next generation together. Further reading: Tian Liang in the Spouse Palace.

With Tian Xiang in the Children Palace, the Property Palace always holds Po Jun and the Friends Palace always holds Tian Fu: you value rules with the next generation, while home often goes through changes; friends and team members tend to be steady. The Parents Palace star is not fixed.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, you raise a well-mannered, considerate next generation. When fallen, you often find yourself caught between different sides. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Zi, Chou, Yin, Wu, Shen; Favorable: Chen, Si, Wei, Xu, Hai; Fallen: Mao, You.

Opposite the Children Palace is the Property Palace (the Children–Property axis: the next generation and home pull on each other), and its trine is the Parents and Friends Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Property, Life, Spouse, Parents and Friends Palaces for each of the twelve branches Tian Xiang can occupy in the Children Palace.

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Lian Zhen with Tian Xiang (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Tian Xiang exalted, Lian Zhen neutral; Wu: Tian Xiang exalted, Lian Zhen neutral. Opposite Property: Po Jun; Life: Tian Tong; Spouse: Tian Liang. About 17.1% of charts with Tian Xiang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Big on principle and rules, you want the next generation to be upright and know their place. Watch for Tian Xiang being squeezed between a punishment star and a Ji: the relationship can be pulled around by outside events. Further reading: Lian Zhen in the Children Palace.

Tian Xiang alone, facing Zi Wei and Po Jun (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Tian Xiang exalted; Wei: Tian Xiang favorable. Opposite Property: Zi Wei and Po Jun; Life: Tai Yang; Spouse: Tian Tong and Tian Liang. About 16.3% of charts with Tian Xiang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You value rules with the next generation; with Zi Wei and Po Jun in the Property Palace opposite, home is often remodelled on a big scale. In Chou, Tian Xiang is exalted and your approach is steadier.

Wu Qu with Tian Xiang (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Tian Xiang exalted, Wu Qu favorable; Shen: Tian Xiang exalted, Wu Qu favorable. Opposite Property: Po Jun; Life: Tian Ji; Spouse: Tai Yang and Tian Liang. About 16.3% of charts with Tian Xiang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Practical and principled, you care about the next generation's ability and their sense of how to treat people; an elder very good at teaching how to get things done. Further reading: Wu Qu in the Children Palace.

Tian Xiang alone, facing Lian Zhen and Po Jun (Mao or You)

Mao: Tian Xiang fallen; You: Tian Xiang fallen. Opposite Property: Lian Zhen and Po Jun; Life: empty palace; Spouse: Tian Ji and Tian Liang. About 15.5% of charts with Tian Xiang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Tian Xiang is fallen in Mao and You, so your approach to the young is easily disrupted by outside forces; with Lian Zhen and Po Jun in the Property Palace opposite, home goes through big shifts.

Zi Wei with Tian Xiang (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Tian Xiang favorable, Zi Wei favorable; Xu: Tian Xiang favorable, Zi Wei favorable. Opposite Property: Po Jun; Life: empty palace; Spouse: Tian Liang. About 17.3% of charts with Tian Xiang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Big on rules and appearances, you want the next generation to be well mannered. In Chen and Xu, Heaven's Net and Earth's Snare, you may feel you cannot get through to them early on, and the relationship takes time to build. Further reading: Zi Wei in the Children Palace.

Tian Xiang alone, facing Wu Qu and Po Jun (Si or Hai)

Si: Tian Xiang favorable; Hai: Tian Xiang favorable. Opposite Property: Wu Qu and Po Jun; Life: empty palace; Spouse: Tian Liang. About 17.3% of charts with Tian Xiang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You value rules and a sense of proportion with the next generation; with Wu Qu and Po Jun in the Property Palace opposite, home goes through more change.

Birth-year transformations in the Children Palace

Under the Four Transformations table of the Complete Book of Zi Wei Dou Shu, Tian Xiang never transforms, so Tian Xiang in the Children Palace never carries a birth-year Hua Lu, Hua Quan, Hua Ke or Hua Ji of its own. For transformations in how you relate to the next generation, look at any other star sharing the palace, at Lu Cun, and at the Property Palace opposite.

Getting along

Harmony matters, but also listen to what the next generation really thinks.

About 42.3% of charts with Tian Xiang in the Children Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.4% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Children Palace usually show up as more friction and more worry with the next generation, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship.

What our sample shows

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s chances of having children or what their children achieve.

Other major stars in the Children Palace