Tan Lang in the Children Palace: What Kind of Elder You Are

Tan Lang in the Children Palace means your time with the next generation is fun and lively; you like taking them out to play and try new things, and you support them in exploring many directions.

Raising and relating

People with Tan Lang here are fun elders. The lesson is spoiling them or being too permissive, or letting your own hobbies and social life eat into your time together.

You and the next generation: the Life and Children Palaces

With Tan Lang in the Children Palace, the Life Palace always holds Tian Liang: you are mature, steady and like to explain things, yet with the next generation you are great fun and happy to share new experiences with them.

This is built into the chart: counting three palaces forward from Tan Lang always lands on Tian Liang, and the Life Palace always sits three palaces forward from the Children Palace. Further reading: Tian Liang in the Life Palace.

Partner and next generation

Counting one palace forward from Tan Lang always lands on Ju Men, and the Spouse Palace always sits one palace forward from the Children Palace, so with Tan Lang in the Children Palace the Spouse Palace always holds Ju Men: the shape of your partnership is often also the way the two of you face the next generation together. Further reading: Ju Men in the Spouse Palace.

With Tan Lang in the Children Palace, the Parents Palace always holds Qi Sha and the Friends Palace always holds Po Jun. The Sha-Po-Lang trio always forms a trine. The Property Palace star is not fixed.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, the relationship is lively and the next generation is talented in many ways. When fallen, you tend to spoil them or be too permissive. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Chou, Chen, Wei, Xu; Strong: Zi, Wu; Fair: Mao, You; Neutral: Yin, Shen; Fallen: Si, Hai.

Opposite the Children Palace is the Property Palace (the Children–Property axis: the next generation and home pull on each other), and its trine is the Parents and Friends Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Property, Life, Spouse, Parents and Friends Palaces for each of the twelve branches Tan Lang can occupy in the Children Palace.

Children Palace inBrightnessShares the palace withOpposite (Property)Your Life PalaceSpouseParentsFriends
YinNeutralaloneLian ZhenTian LiangTian Ji and Ju MenQi ShaPo Jun
MaoFairZi Weiempty palaceTian LiangJu MenLian Zhen and Qi ShaWu Qu and Po Jun
ChenExaltedaloneWu QuTian LiangJu MenQi ShaPo Jun
SiFallenLian Zhenempty palaceTian Tong and Tian LiangJu MenWu Qu and Qi ShaZi Wei and Po Jun
WuStrongaloneZi WeiTai Yang and Tian LiangTian Tong and Ju MenQi ShaPo Jun
WeiExaltedWu Quempty palaceTian Ji and Tian LiangTai Yang and Ju MenZi Wei and Qi ShaLian Zhen and Po Jun
ShenNeutralaloneLian ZhenTian LiangTian Ji and Ju MenQi ShaPo Jun
YouFairZi Weiempty palaceTian LiangJu MenLian Zhen and Qi ShaWu Qu and Po Jun
XuExaltedaloneWu QuTian LiangJu MenQi ShaPo Jun
HaiFallenLian Zhenempty palaceTian Tong and Tian LiangJu MenWu Qu and Qi ShaZi Wei and Po Jun
ZiStrongaloneZi WeiTai Yang and Tian LiangTian Tong and Ju MenQi ShaPo Jun
ChouExaltedWu Quempty palaceTian Ji and Tian LiangTai Yang and Ju MenZi Wei and Qi ShaLian Zhen and Po Jun

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Tan Lang alone, facing Zi Wei (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Tan Lang strong; Wu: Tan Lang strong. Opposite Property: Zi Wei; Life: Tai Yang and Tian Liang; Spouse: Tian Tong and Ju Men. About 14.6% of charts with Tan Lang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Time with the next generation is fun and you are happy to play along; with Zi Wei in the Property Palace opposite, home has presence and is yours to run.

Wu Qu with Tan Lang (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Tan Lang exalted, Wu Qu exalted; Wei: Tan Lang exalted, Wu Qu exalted. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Tian Ji and Tian Liang; Spouse: Tai Yang and Ju Men. About 17.0% of charts with Tan Lang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You value both practicality and interests, and put real effort into developing the next generation's talents and abilities. The old saying is that Wu Qu with Tan Lang does not bloom in youth; your relationship with the young tends to get better over time. Further reading: Wu Qu in the Children Palace.

Tan Lang alone, facing Lian Zhen (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Tan Lang neutral; Shen: Tan Lang neutral. Opposite Property: Lian Zhen; Life: Tian Liang; Spouse: Tian Ji and Ju Men. About 18.5% of charts with Tan Lang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Time with the next generation is lively and changeable; with Lian Zhen in the Property Palace opposite, home has principles and rules.

Zi Wei with Tan Lang (Mao or You)

Mao: Tan Lang fair, Zi Wei strong; You: Tan Lang fair, Zi Wei strong. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Tian Liang; Spouse: Ju Men. About 17.1% of charts with Tan Lang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Time with the next generation is fun and done in style; you are keen to develop their talents and show them the world. Keep an eye on the spending and the spoiling. Further reading: Zi Wei in the Children Palace.

Tan Lang alone, facing Wu Qu (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Tan Lang exalted; Xu: Tan Lang exalted. Opposite Property: Wu Qu; Life: Tian Liang; Spouse: Ju Men. About 16.5% of charts with Tan Lang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Tan Lang is exalted in Chen and Xu, so you put real effort into developing the next generation's interests and talents; with Wu Qu in the Property Palace opposite, home is practical and you are good at acquiring property.

Lian Zhen with Tan Lang (Si or Hai)

Si: Tan Lang fallen, Lian Zhen fallen; Hai: Tan Lang fallen, Lian Zhen fallen. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Tian Tong and Tian Liang; Spouse: Ju Men. About 16.3% of charts with Tan Lang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Time with the next generation is lively and full of character, with strong feelings and moods. Both stars are fallen in Si and Hai, so boundaries and moderation are the key. Further reading: Lian Zhen in the Children Palace.

Birth-year transformations in the Children Palace

Getting along

Playing together is great, but rules and boundaries are part of being there too.

About 41.4% of charts with Tan Lang in the Children Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.4% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Children Palace usually show up as more friction and more worry with the next generation, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship.

What our sample shows

8.3%of charts have Tan Lang in the Children Palace (alone or with another major star)
18.5%of those fall into the most common group: Tan Lang alone, facing Lian Zhen
24.8%of those have a birth-year transformation on Tan Lang itself
41.4%of those also have a Sha star in the Children Palace

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s chances of having children or what their children achieve.

Other major stars in the Children Palace

Zi Wei in the Children Palacethe Emperor Star in the Children Palace Tian Ji in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Zi Wei Tai Yang in the Children PalaceLife Palace always holds Zi Wei Wu Qu in the Children PalaceLife: Tian Ji · Spouse: Tai Yang Tian Tong in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Wu Qu Lian Zhen in the Children PalaceLife Palace always holds Tian Tong Tian Fu in the Children PalaceLife: Ju Men · Spouse: Tai Yin Tai Yin in the Children PalaceLife: Tian Xiang · Spouse: Tan Lang Ju Men in the Children PalaceLife: Qi Sha · Spouse: Tian Xiang Tian Xiang in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Tian Liang Tian Liang in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Qi Sha Qi Sha in the Children Palacethe Marshal Star in the Children Palace Po Jun in the Children PalaceLife Palace always holds Tai Yin

A straight word: the Children Palace is about how you relate to the next generation, not whether you will have children

The Children Palace describes your attitude, your style of raising and guiding, and what you pass on when you deal with children, younger relatives, students or team members. It cannot tell you whether you will have children, how many, or whether they will be boys or girls, and it cannot judge a child's wellbeing or achievements. Classical phrases such as "harming the children" or "late offspring" are not used on this site. Questions about having children or about health belong with a medical professional. Everything on this site is for reference and entertainment only.

Find out which star sits in your Children Palace

Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Children Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set.

Tan Lang in the Children Palace: FAQ

Why is Tian Liang always in the Life Palace when Tan Lang is in the Children Palace?

It follows from how the stars are placed. Counting three palaces forward from Tan Lang always lands on Tian Liang, and the Life Palace always sits three palaces forward from the Children Palace. So whenever Tan Lang is in the Children Palace, Tian Liang is always in the Life Palace.

How common is Tan Lang in the Children Palace?

Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.3% have Tan Lang in the Children Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Children Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.