Tai Yang in the Children Palace: What Kind of Elder You Are
Tai Yang in the Children Palace means you are warm, generous and giving towards the next generation, an elder who spends time with them and looks after them.
Raising and relating
People with Tai Yang here often put the young ones' needs near the top of the list. When Tai Yang is bright, what you give comes back as a warm relationship; when fallen, you give just as much but tend to feel tired and misunderstood.
- Parenting style: Warm and giving, spending a lot of time together, and caring about the next generation's character.
- With younger people and your team: With students and team members you are generous and caring, someone glad to help juniors along.
- What you create and pass on: What you pass on is influence and an example to follow.
You and the next generation: the Life and Children Palaces
With Tai Yang in the Children Palace, the Life Palace always holds Zi Wei: you have firm views and think big, and towards the next generation you are warm, giving and caring.
This is built into the chart: counting three palaces forward from Tai Yang always lands on Zi Wei, and the Life Palace always sits three palaces forward from the Children Palace. Further reading: Zi Wei in the Life Palace.
Partner and next generation
With Tai Yang in the Children Palace, the Spouse Palace star is not fixed; the table below lists it for each branch.
With Tai Yang in the Children Palace, none of the Parents, Friends or Property Palace stars is fixed.
Bright and fallen positions
When bright, the relationship is warm and bright, and the next generation looks up to you. When fallen, you give much and get little back, and wear yourself out for the young ones. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Mao; Strong: Yin, Chen, Si, Wu; Favorable: Wei, Shen; Neutral: You; Weak: Chou, Xu; Fallen: Zi, Hai.
Opposite the Children Palace is the Property Palace (the Children–Property axis: the next generation and home pull on each other), and its trine is the Parents and Friends Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Property, Life, Spouse, Parents and Friends Palaces for each of the twelve branches Tai Yang can occupy in the Children Palace.
| Children Palace in | Brightness | Shares the palace with | Opposite (Property) | Your Life Palace | Spouse | Parents | Friends |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yin | Strong | Ju Men | empty palace | Zi Wei and Qi Sha | Tian Xiang | empty palace | empty palace |
| Mao | Exalted | Tian Liang | empty palace | Zi Wei | Qi Sha | empty palace | Tai Yin |
| Chen | Strong | alone | Tai Yin | Zi Wei and Po Jun | empty palace | empty palace | Ju Men |
| Si | Strong | alone | Ju Men | Zi Wei and Tian Fu | Po Jun | Tai Yin | Tian Liang |
| Wu | Strong | alone | Tian Liang | Zi Wei and Tan Lang | Tian Fu | Ju Men | empty palace |
| Wei | Favorable | Tai Yin | empty palace | Zi Wei and Tian Xiang | Tan Lang | Tian Liang | empty palace |
| Shen | Favorable | Ju Men | empty palace | Zi Wei and Qi Sha | Tian Xiang | empty palace | empty palace |
| You | Neutral | Tian Liang | empty palace | Zi Wei | Qi Sha | empty palace | Tai Yin |
| Xu | Weak | alone | Tai Yin | Zi Wei and Po Jun | empty palace | empty palace | Ju Men |
| Hai | Fallen | alone | Ju Men | Zi Wei and Tian Fu | Po Jun | Tai Yin | Tian Liang |
| Zi | Fallen | alone | Tian Liang | Zi Wei and Tan Lang | Tian Fu | Ju Men | empty palace |
| Chou | Weak | Tai Yin | empty palace | Zi Wei and Tian Xiang | Tan Lang | Tian Liang | empty palace |
"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.
The six combinations
Tai Yang alone, facing Tian Liang (Zi or Wu)
Zi: Tai Yang fallen; Wu: Tai Yang strong. Opposite Property: Tian Liang; Life: Zi Wei and Tan Lang; Spouse: Tian Fu. About 17.5% of charts with Tai Yang in the Children Palace fall into this group.
You are glad to look after the next generation; with Tian Liang in the Property Palace opposite, home is sheltered. In Wu, Tai Yang is at its strongest and the relationship is bright; in Zi it is fallen, and you work harder for the young ones.
Tai Yang with Tai Yin (Chou or Wei)
Chou: Tai Yang weak, Tai Yin exalted; Wei: Tai Yang favorable, Tai Yin weak. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Zi Wei and Tian Xiang; Spouse: Tan Lang. About 16.2% of charts with Tai Yang in the Children Palace fall into this group.
Sun and Moon together in the Children Palace: warm one moment and delicate the next with the next generation, and the relationship follows your moods. Chou leans towards quiet care; Wei towards outgoing time together. Further reading: Tai Yin in the Children Palace.
Tai Yang with Ju Men (Yin or Shen)
Yin: Tai Yang strong, Ju Men exalted; Shen: Tai Yang favorable, Ju Men exalted. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Zi Wei and Qi Sha; Spouse: Tian Xiang. About 15.5% of charts with Tai Yang in the Children Palace fall into this group.
You talk a lot and interact a lot with the next generation, valuing both reason and expression. In Yin, Tai Yang is strong and communication is open; in Shen, watch for arguments and misunderstandings. Further reading: Ju Men in the Children Palace.
Tai Yang with Tian Liang (Mao or You)
Mao: Tai Yang exalted, Tian Liang exalted; You: Tai Yang neutral, Tian Liang favorable. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Zi Wei; Spouse: Qi Sha. About 14.4% of charts with Tai Yang in the Children Palace fall into this group.
Caring and fond of teaching, you are the next generation's mainstay. In Mao both stars are exalted and the relationship is bright and warm; in You, you give a lot and tire easily. Further reading: Tian Liang in the Children Palace.
Tai Yang alone, facing Tai Yin (Chen or Xu)
Chen: Tai Yang strong; Xu: Tai Yang weak. Opposite Property: Tai Yin; Life: Zi Wei and Po Jun; Spouse: empty palace. About 18.8% of charts with Tai Yang in the Children Palace fall into this group.
You give warmly to the next generation; Tai Yin sits in the Property Palace opposite. With the Children Palace in Chen, Tai Yin opposite in Xu is strong, and both the young ones and home are settled; in Xu both Sun and Moon are weak, and you worry more about the next generation.
Tai Yang alone, facing Ju Men (Si or Hai)
Si: Tai Yang strong; Hai: Tai Yang fallen. Opposite Property: Ju Men; Life: Zi Wei and Tian Fu; Spouse: Po Jun. About 17.5% of charts with Tai Yang in the Children Palace fall into this group.
You are warm-hearted with the next generation; with Ju Men in the Property Palace opposite, there is a lot of talk at home. In Si, Tai Yang is strong and the relationship is open; in Hai it is fallen, and you give much and get little response.
Birth-year transformations in the Children Palace
- Tai Yang with Hua Lu (born in a Geng year): People born in a Geng year have Tai Yang Hua Lu in the Children Palace: your relationship with the next generation is warm, and what you give is returned. In our sample, about 11.8% of charts with Tai Yang in the Children Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
- Tai Yang with Hua Quan (born in a Xin year): People born in a Xin year have Tai Yang Hua Quan in the Children Palace: you have influence over the next generation, and can end up managing too much. In our sample, about 10.2% of charts with Tai Yang in the Children Palace carry the birth-year Hua Quan.
- Tai Yang with Hua Ji (born in a Jia year): People born in a Jia year have Tai Yang Hua Ji in the Children Palace: you tend to worry about the next generation and give too much. Look after yourself first. In our sample, about 12.2% of charts with Tai Yang in the Children Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ji.
Getting along
Being there matters, but also let the next generation learn to shine on their own.
About 42.5% of charts with Tai Yang in the Children Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.4% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Children Palace usually show up as more friction and more worry with the next generation, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship.
What our sample shows
How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s chances of having children or what their children achieve.
Other major stars in the Children Palace
A straight word: the Children Palace is about how you relate to the next generation, not whether you will have children
The Children Palace describes your attitude, your style of raising and guiding, and what you pass on when you deal with children, younger relatives, students or team members. It cannot tell you whether you will have children, how many, or whether they will be boys or girls, and it cannot judge a child's wellbeing or achievements. Classical phrases such as "harming the children" or "late offspring" are not used on this site. Questions about having children or about health belong with a medical professional. Everything on this site is for reference and entertainment only.
Find out which star sits in your Children Palace
Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Children Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set.
Tai Yang in the Children Palace: FAQ
Why is Zi Wei always in the Life Palace when Tai Yang is in the Children Palace?
It follows from how the stars are placed. Counting three palaces forward from Tai Yang always lands on Zi Wei, and the Life Palace always sits three palaces forward from the Children Palace. So whenever Tai Yang is in the Children Palace, Zi Wei is always in the Life Palace.
How common is Tai Yang in the Children Palace?
Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.4% have Tai Yang in the Children Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Children Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.