Tian Liang in the Children Palace: What Kind of Elder You Are

Tian Liang in the Children Palace means you are part elder, part teacher: you look after and protect the next generation, and you love teaching them how to live well.

Raising and relating

People with Tian Liang here are the young ones' mainstay. The lesson is managing and lecturing too much, so as they grow up they may want more space of their own.

• Parenting style: Caring and teaching in equal measure, big on character and principles.
• With younger people and your team: With students and team members you are the mentor type, glad to bring them up.
• What you create and pass on: What you pass on is values and principles for living.

You and the next generation: the Life and Children Palaces

With Tian Liang in the Children Palace, the Life Palace star is not fixed: it can be Wu Qu, Zi Wei or Lian Zhen, or the Life Palace can be empty.

With Tian Liang in the Children Palace, the Life Palace star changes with the branch; the table below lists it for each one.

Partner and next generation

Counting one palace forward from Tian Liang always lands on Qi Sha, and the Spouse Palace always sits one palace forward from the Children Palace, so with Tian Liang in the Children Palace the Spouse Palace always holds Qi Sha: the shape of your partnership is often also the way the two of you face the next generation together. Further reading: Qi Sha in the Spouse Palace.

With Tian Liang in the Children Palace, the Friends Palace always holds Tai Yin: friends and team members tend to be sensitive and gentle. The Parents and Property Palace stars are not fixed.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, you are a dependable mainstay for the next generation. When fallen, you lecture and manage too much, and the relationship can drift apart. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Zi, Yin, Mao, Chen, Wu, Xu; Strong: Chou, Wei; Favorable: You; Fallen: Si, Shen, Hai.

Opposite the Children Palace is the Property Palace (the Children–Property axis: the next generation and home pull on each other), and its trine is the Parents and Friends Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Property, Life, Spouse, Parents and Friends Palaces for each of the twelve branches Tian Liang can occupy in the Children Palace.

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Tian Liang alone, facing Tai Yang (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Tian Liang exalted; Wu: Tian Liang exalted. Opposite Property: Tai Yang; Life: empty palace; Spouse: Lian Zhen and Qi Sha. About 16.5% of charts with Tian Liang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Tian Liang is exalted in Zi and Wu, so you are an elder who both cares and teaches; Tai Yang sits in the Property Palace opposite. With the Children Palace in Zi, Tai Yang opposite in Wu is at its strongest, and home is cheerful and lively.

Tian Liang alone, facing Tian Ji (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Tian Liang strong; Wei: Tian Liang strong. Opposite Property: Tian Ji; Life: Wu Qu; Spouse: Qi Sha. About 18.5% of charts with Tian Liang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Tian Liang is strong in Chou and Wei, so you are the next generation's mainstay; with Tian Ji in the Property Palace opposite, home keeps being adjusted.

Tian Tong with Tian Liang (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Tian Liang exalted, Tian Tong fair; Shen: Tian Liang fallen, Tian Tong strong. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: empty palace; Spouse: Wu Qu and Qi Sha. About 17.5% of charts with Tian Liang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Gentle and caring, an elder the next generation really trusts. The lesson is spoiling and over-protecting them. Further reading: Tian Tong in the Children Palace.

Tai Yang with Tian Liang (Mao or You)

Mao: Tian Liang exalted, Tai Yang exalted; You: Tian Liang favorable, Tai Yang neutral. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Zi Wei; Spouse: Qi Sha. About 14.3% of charts with Tian Liang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Caring and fond of teaching, you are the next generation's mainstay. In Mao both stars are exalted and the relationship is bright and warm; in You, you give a lot and tire easily. Further reading: Tai Yang in the Children Palace.

Tian Ji with Tian Liang (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Tian Liang exalted, Tian Ji fair; Xu: Tian Liang exalted, Tian Ji fair. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: empty palace; Spouse: Zi Wei and Qi Sha. About 15.3% of charts with Tian Liang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Like a teacher, you show the next generation how to think things through and reason them out; an elder with plenty of good ideas. Further reading: Tian Ji in the Children Palace.

Tian Liang alone, facing Tian Tong (Si or Hai)

Si: Tian Liang fallen; Hai: Tian Liang fallen. Opposite Property: Tian Tong; Life: Lian Zhen; Spouse: Qi Sha. About 18.0% of charts with Tian Liang in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Tian Liang is fallen in Si and Hai, so you often feel you cannot quite manage to look after the next generation; with Tian Tong in the Property Palace opposite, home is gentle, and the relationship is built slowly over time.

Birth-year transformations in the Children Palace

• Tian Liang with Hua Lu (born in a Ren year): People born in a Ren year have Tian Liang Hua Lu in the Children Palace: you can give the next generation resources and shelter, though the old texts warn that benefits can also stir up disputes. In our sample, about 9.5% of charts with Tian Liang in the Children Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
• Tian Liang with Hua Quan (born in a Yi year): People born in a Yi year have Tian Liang Hua Quan in the Children Palace: you have authority with the next generation and your words carry weight. In our sample, about 10.7% of charts with Tian Liang in the Children Palace carry the birth-year Hua Quan.
• Tian Liang with Hua Ke (born in a Ji year): People born in a Ji year have Tian Liang Hua Ke in the Children Palace: you bring up the young well and are respected for it. In our sample, about 10.7% of charts with Tian Liang in the Children Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ke.

Getting along

Explain a principle once, and let the next generation work out the rest for themselves.

About 41.8% of charts with Tian Liang in the Children Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.4% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Children Palace usually show up as more friction and more worry with the next generation, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship.

What our sample shows

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s chances of having children or what their children achieve.

Other major stars in the Children Palace