Zi Wei in the Children Palace: What Kind of Elder You Are

Zi Wei in the Children Palace means you have high hopes for the next generation: you want your children or the young people in your care to have vision and do well, and you often see them as an extension of yourself. In front of them you are an elder who carries weight.

Raising and relating

People with Zi Wei here lean towards a "set the direction, lay down the rules" style of raising and mentoring. The upside is that the young ones have something clear to follow; the lesson is that expectations run high and you take charge a lot, which can leave them feeling they cannot breathe.

You and the next generation: the Life and Children Palaces

With Zi Wei in the Children Palace, the Life Palace star is not fixed: it can be Tai Yin, Ju Men or Tian Liang, or the Life Palace can be empty. Often you are sensitive or like to reason things out, yet you have very high hopes for the next generation.

With Zi Wei in the Children Palace, the Life Palace star changes with the branch; the table below lists it for each one.

Partner and next generation

With Zi Wei in the Children Palace, the Spouse Palace star is not fixed; the table below lists it for each branch.

With Zi Wei in the Children Palace, the Parents Palace always holds Lian Zhen and the Friends Palace always holds Wu Qu. Zi Wei, Lian Zhen and Wu Qu always form a trine. The Property Palace star is not fixed.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, you are a generous-minded elder, and those you bring up have vision too. In a neutral position your expectations are high but you have less to back them up, and your anxiety can land on the next generation. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Chou, Wu, Wei; Strong: Yin, Mao, Si, Shen, You, Hai; Favorable: Chen, Xu; Neutral: Zi.

Opposite the Children Palace is the Property Palace (the Children–Property axis: the next generation and home pull on each other), and its trine is the Parents and Friends Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Property, Life, Spouse, Parents and Friends Palaces for each of the twelve branches Zi Wei can occupy in the Children Palace.

Children Palace inBrightnessShares the palace withOpposite (Property)Your Life PalaceSpouseParentsFriends
YinStrongTian FuQi ShaJu MenTai YinLian Zhen and Tian XiangWu Qu
MaoStrongTan Langempty palaceTian LiangJu MenLian Zhen and Qi ShaWu Qu and Po Jun
ChenFavorableTian XiangPo Junempty palaceTian LiangLian ZhenWu Qu and Tian Fu
SiStrongQi ShaTian Fuempty palaceempty palaceLian Zhen and Po JunWu Qu and Tan Lang
WuExaltedaloneTan Langempty palaceempty palaceLian Zhen and Tian FuWu Qu and Tian Xiang
WeiExaltedPo JunTian XiangTai Yinempty palaceLian Zhen and Tan LangWu Qu and Qi Sha
ShenStrongTian FuQi ShaJu MenTai YinLian Zhen and Tian XiangWu Qu
YouStrongTan Langempty palaceTian LiangJu MenLian Zhen and Qi ShaWu Qu and Po Jun
XuFavorableTian XiangPo Junempty palaceTian LiangLian ZhenWu Qu and Tian Fu
HaiStrongQi ShaTian Fuempty palaceempty palaceLian Zhen and Po JunWu Qu and Tan Lang
ZiNeutralaloneTan Langempty palaceempty palaceLian Zhen and Tian FuWu Qu and Tian Xiang
ChouExaltedPo JunTian XiangTai Yinempty palaceLian Zhen and Tan LangWu Qu and Qi Sha

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Zi Wei alone, facing Tan Lang (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Zi Wei neutral; Wu: Zi Wei exalted. Opposite Property: Tan Lang; Life: empty palace; Spouse: empty palace. About 15.3% of charts with Zi Wei in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You have hopes for the next generation and want to be in charge; with Tan Lang in the Property Palace opposite, home is lively and big on enjoyment. In Wu, Zi Wei is exalted and you show the most natural authority as an elder.

Zi Wei with Po Jun (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Zi Wei exalted, Po Jun strong; Wei: Zi Wei exalted, Po Jun strong. Opposite Property: Tian Xiang; Life: Tai Yin; Spouse: empty palace. About 17.8% of charts with Zi Wei in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You have high hopes for the next generation and are willing to let them take new roads. Your approach to bringing them up changes a lot, and every change is meant to help them do better. Further reading: Po Jun in the Children Palace.

Zi Wei with Tian Fu (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Zi Wei strong, Tian Fu exalted; Shen: Zi Wei strong, Tian Fu favorable. Opposite Property: Qi Sha; Life: Ju Men; Spouse: Tai Yin. About 17.7% of charts with Zi Wei in the Children Palace fall into this group.

A steady elder with vision, who gives the next generation both direction and a solid backstop. The lesson is high expectations and a lot of protection; remember to let them make their own decisions. Further reading: Tian Fu in the Children Palace.

Zi Wei with Tan Lang (Mao or You)

Mao: Zi Wei strong, Tan Lang fair; You: Zi Wei strong, Tan Lang fair. Opposite Property: empty palace; Life: Tian Liang; Spouse: Ju Men. About 16.5% of charts with Zi Wei in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Time with the next generation is fun and done in style; you are keen to develop their talents and show them the world. Keep an eye on the spending and the spoiling. Further reading: Tan Lang in the Children Palace.

Zi Wei with Tian Xiang (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Zi Wei favorable, Tian Xiang favorable; Xu: Zi Wei favorable, Tian Xiang favorable. Opposite Property: Po Jun; Life: empty palace; Spouse: Tian Liang. About 16.6% of charts with Zi Wei in the Children Palace fall into this group.

Big on rules and appearances, you want the next generation to be well mannered. In Chen and Xu, Heaven's Net and Earth's Snare, you may feel you cannot get through to them early on, and the relationship takes time to build. Further reading: Tian Xiang in the Children Palace.

Zi Wei with Qi Sha (Si or Hai)

Si: Zi Wei strong, Qi Sha neutral; Hai: Zi Wei strong, Qi Sha neutral. Opposite Property: Tian Fu; Life: empty palace; Spouse: empty palace. About 16.1% of charts with Zi Wei in the Children Palace fall into this group.

You have a strong urge to take charge of the next generation and want them independent and successful. The relationship has force; be careful not to hold the reins too tight. Further reading: Qi Sha in the Children Palace.

Birth-year transformations in the Children Palace

Getting along

Give direction, and give room too; let the next generation know they are allowed to be different.

About 44.3% of charts with Zi Wei in the Children Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.4% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Children Palace usually show up as more friction and more worry with the next generation, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship.

What our sample shows

8.6%of charts have Zi Wei in the Children Palace (alone or with another major star)
17.8%of those fall into the most common group: Zi Wei with Po Jun
19.9%of those have a birth-year transformation on Zi Wei itself
44.3%of those also have a Sha star in the Children Palace

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s chances of having children or what their children achieve.

Other major stars in the Children Palace

Tian Ji in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Zi Wei Tai Yang in the Children PalaceLife Palace always holds Zi Wei Wu Qu in the Children PalaceLife: Tian Ji · Spouse: Tai Yang Tian Tong in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Wu Qu Lian Zhen in the Children PalaceLife Palace always holds Tian Tong Tian Fu in the Children PalaceLife: Ju Men · Spouse: Tai Yin Tai Yin in the Children PalaceLife: Tian Xiang · Spouse: Tan Lang Tan Lang in the Children PalaceLife: Tian Liang · Spouse: Ju Men Ju Men in the Children PalaceLife: Qi Sha · Spouse: Tian Xiang Tian Xiang in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Tian Liang Tian Liang in the Children PalaceSpouse Palace always holds Qi Sha Qi Sha in the Children Palacethe Marshal Star in the Children Palace Po Jun in the Children PalaceLife Palace always holds Tai Yin

A straight word: the Children Palace is about how you relate to the next generation, not whether you will have children

The Children Palace describes your attitude, your style of raising and guiding, and what you pass on when you deal with children, younger relatives, students or team members. It cannot tell you whether you will have children, how many, or whether they will be boys or girls, and it cannot judge a child's wellbeing or achievements. Classical phrases such as "harming the children" or "late offspring" are not used on this site. Questions about having children or about health belong with a medical professional. Everything on this site is for reference and entertainment only.

Find out which star sits in your Children Palace

Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Children Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set.

Zi Wei in the Children Palace: FAQ

Does Zi Wei in the Children Palace mean my children will be successful?

The Children Palace describes how you relate to the next generation; it does not predict what your children will achieve or whether you will have children at all. Zi Wei here means you expect a lot and invest in developing the young, and you should be careful not to take charge too much.

How common is Zi Wei in the Children Palace?

Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.6% have Zi Wei in the Children Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Children Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.