Tan Lang in the Parents Palace: You and the Generation Above

Tan Lang in the Parents Palace means your parents or elders are lively, have many interests and a wide social circle; home is often busy and full of people.

Parents, elders and bosses

People with Tan Lang here pick up a zest for life and social skills from their elders. The lesson is that elders' attention is often spread across hobbies and friends, so time together and house rules need more talking through on both sides.

You and the generation above: the Life and Parents Palaces

With Tan Lang in the Parents Palace, the Life Palace always holds Tai Yin: you are sensitive and gentle, while the generation above you is lively, outgoing and sociable.

This is built into the chart: counting one palace backward from Tan Lang always lands on Tai Yin, and the Life Palace always sits one palace backward from the Parents Palace. Further reading: Tai Yin in the Life Palace.

Parents and Mind: upbringing and inner life

Counting one palace forward from Tan Lang always lands on Ju Men, and the Mind Palace always sits one palace forward from the Parents Palace, so with Tan Lang in the Parents Palace the Mind Palace always holds Ju Men: the setting and upbringing your elders gave you tends to leave a lasting tint on your inner life. Further reading: Ju Men in the Mind Palace.

With Tan Lang in the Parents Palace, the Children Palace always holds Po Jun and the Friends Palace always holds Qi Sha. The Sha-Po-Lang trio always forms a trine.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, elders are talented in many ways and broaden your horizons. When fallen, elders are busy with outside affairs or having fun, and have less time for you. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Chou, Chen, Wei, Xu; Strong: Zi, Wu; Fair: Mao, You; Neutral: Yin, Shen; Fallen: Si, Hai.

The Parents Palace forms a trine with the Children and Friends Palaces (the generation above, the generation below, and friends and team members read as one group), and it sits between the Life Palace and the Mind Palace. Opposite is the Health Palace; we only read it as the star shining into the Parents Palace and make no health readings. The table shows, for each of the twelve branches Tan Lang can occupy in the Parents Palace, the star shining in from opposite and the major stars of the Life, Mind, Children and Friends Palaces.

Parents Palace inBrightnessShares the palace withOpposite (shining in)Your Life PalaceMindChildrenFriends
YinNeutralaloneLian ZhenTai Yang and Tai YinTian Ji and Ju MenPo JunQi Sha
MaoFairZi Weiempty palaceTian Ji and Tai YinJu MenWu Qu and Po JunLian Zhen and Qi Sha
ChenExaltedaloneWu QuTai YinJu MenPo JunQi Sha
SiFallenLian Zhenempty palaceTai YinJu MenZi Wei and Po JunWu Qu and Qi Sha
WuStrongaloneZi WeiTai YinTian Tong and Ju MenPo JunQi Sha
WeiExaltedWu Quempty palaceTian Tong and Tai YinTai Yang and Ju MenLian Zhen and Po JunZi Wei and Qi Sha
ShenNeutralaloneLian ZhenTai Yang and Tai YinTian Ji and Ju MenPo JunQi Sha
YouFairZi Weiempty palaceTian Ji and Tai YinJu MenWu Qu and Po JunLian Zhen and Qi Sha
XuExaltedaloneWu QuTai YinJu MenPo JunQi Sha
HaiFallenLian Zhenempty palaceTai YinJu MenZi Wei and Po JunWu Qu and Qi Sha
ZiStrongaloneZi WeiTai YinTian Tong and Ju MenPo JunQi Sha
ChouExaltedWu Quempty palaceTian Tong and Tai YinTai Yang and Ju MenLian Zhen and Po JunZi Wei and Qi Sha

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Tan Lang alone, facing Zi Wei (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Tan Lang strong; Wu: Tan Lang strong. Shining in from opposite: Zi Wei; Life: Tai Yin; Mind: Tian Tong and Ju Men. About 13.7% of charts with Tan Lang in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Tan Lang sits alone with Zi Wei shining in from opposite: elders are lively and sociable, with strong opinions and plenty of pride.

Wu Qu with Tan Lang (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Tan Lang exalted, Wu Qu exalted; Wei: Tan Lang exalted, Wu Qu exalted. Shining in from opposite: empty palace; Life: Tian Tong and Tai Yin; Mind: Tai Yang and Ju Men. About 14.3% of charts with Tan Lang in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders are capable and know how to enjoy life, with a sharp eye for opportunity. The old saying is that Wu Qu with Tan Lang does not bloom in youth; the relationship with elders tends to improve as you get older. Further reading: Wu Qu in the Parents Palace.

Tan Lang alone, facing Lian Zhen (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Tan Lang neutral; Shen: Tan Lang neutral. Shining in from opposite: Lian Zhen; Life: Tai Yang and Tai Yin; Mind: Tian Ji and Ju Men. About 17.8% of charts with Tan Lang in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Tan Lang sits alone with Lian Zhen shining in from opposite: elders are lively and changeable, with strong feelings and strong principles.

Zi Wei with Tan Lang (Mao or You)

Mao: Tan Lang fair, Zi Wei strong; You: Tan Lang fair, Zi Wei strong. Shining in from opposite: empty palace; Life: Tian Ji and Tai Yin; Mind: Ju Men. About 18.0% of charts with Tan Lang in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders have vision and enjoy life; home looks good and is full of people. Their social life and tastes often set the mood at home. Further reading: Zi Wei in the Parents Palace.

Tan Lang alone, facing Wu Qu (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Tan Lang exalted; Xu: Tan Lang exalted. Shining in from opposite: Wu Qu; Life: Tai Yin; Mind: Ju Men. About 17.6% of charts with Tan Lang in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Tan Lang is exalted in Chen and Xu, with Wu Qu shining in from opposite: elders are talented in many ways, and practical and capable too.

Lian Zhen with Tan Lang (Si or Hai)

Si: Tan Lang fallen, Lian Zhen fallen; Hai: Tan Lang fallen, Lian Zhen fallen. Shining in from opposite: empty palace; Life: Tai Yin; Mind: Ju Men. About 18.7% of charts with Tan Lang in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders are lively and full of character, with strong feelings and moods. Both stars are fallen in Si and Hai, so boundaries between you are the key. Further reading: Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace.

Birth-year transformations in the Parents Palace

Getting along

Learn from your elders' enthusiasm, and agree with them on the time together each of you needs.

About 42.7% of charts with Tan Lang in the Parents Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 41.9% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Parents Palace usually show up as more friction and more differences of opinion with elders or bosses, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship with your parents.

What our sample shows

8.2%of charts have Tan Lang in the Parents Palace (alone or with another major star)
18.7%of those fall into the most common group: Lian Zhen with Tan Lang
28.9%of those have a birth-year transformation on Tan Lang itself
42.7%of those also have a Sha star in the Parents Palace

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s parents' fortunes or family bonds.

Other major stars in the Parents Palace

Zi Wei in the Parents PalaceLife Palace always holds Tian Ji Tian Ji in the Parents PalaceMind Palace always holds Zi Wei Tai Yang in the Parents PalaceLife Palace always holds Wu Qu Wu Qu in the Parents PalaceLife: Tian Tong · Mind: Tai Yang Tian Tong in the Parents PalaceMind Palace always holds Wu Qu Lian Zhen in the Parents Palacethe Restraint Star in the Parents Palace Tian Fu in the Parents PalaceMind Palace always holds Tai Yin Tai Yin in the Parents PalaceLife: Tian Fu · Mind: Tan Lang Ju Men in the Parents PalaceLife: Tan Lang · Mind: Tian Xiang Tian Xiang in the Parents PalaceLife: Ju Men · Mind: Tian Liang Tian Liang in the Parents PalaceLife: Tian Xiang · Mind: Qi Sha Qi Sha in the Parents PalaceLife Palace always holds Tian Liang Po Jun in the Parents Palacethe Expenditure Star in the Parents Palace

A straight word: the Parents Palace is about how you get on with elders, not about your parents' health or lifespan

The Parents Palace describes how you relate to your parents, elders, bosses and teachers, and how you meet rules and authority. It cannot tell you anything about your parents' health, lifespan or fortunes. Classical phrases such as "harming the parents" or "a thin bond with the parents" are not used on this site. The palace opposite is the Health Palace, which tradition also used to judge the body; we do not make readings of that kind, and health questions belong with a medical professional. Everything on this site is for reference and entertainment only.

Find out which star sits in your Parents Palace

Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Parents Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set.

Tan Lang in the Parents Palace: FAQ

Why is Tai Yin always in the Life Palace when Tan Lang is in the Parents Palace?

It follows from how the stars are placed. Counting one palace backward from Tan Lang always lands on Tai Yin, and the Life Palace always sits one palace backward from the Parents Palace. So whenever Tan Lang is in the Parents Palace, Tai Yin is always in the Life Palace.

How common is Tan Lang in the Parents Palace?

Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.2% have Tan Lang in the Parents Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Parents Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.