Tai Yin in the Parents Palace: You and the Generation Above

Tai Yin in the Parents Palace means your parents or elders are sensitive and gentle; they care a lot about how you feel and are good at the small details of daily life.

Parents, elders and bosses

People with Tai Yin here have a close, attentive relationship with elders. When Tai Yin is bright, their care feels warm and secure; when fallen, it is just as attentive but tends to come with more worrying.

• With your parents: Gentle, attentive parents who think of everything.
• Elders, bosses and teachers: Considerate bosses and teachers who notice what you need.
• Rules and authority: You tend to go along with authority gently, and you care about everyone's feelings.

You and the generation above: the Life and Parents Palaces

With Tai Yin in the Parents Palace, the Life Palace always holds Tian Fu: you are steady and good at keeping what you have, while the generation above you is gentle, attentive and thorough in its care.

This is built into the chart: counting one palace backward from Tai Yin always lands on Tian Fu, and the Life Palace always sits one palace backward from the Parents Palace. Further reading: Tian Fu in the Life Palace.

Parents and Mind: upbringing and inner life

Counting one palace forward from Tai Yin always lands on Tan Lang, and the Mind Palace always sits one palace forward from the Parents Palace, so with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace the Mind Palace always holds Tan Lang: the setting and upbringing your elders gave you tends to leave a lasting tint on your inner life. Further reading: Tan Lang in the Mind Palace.

With Tai Yin in the Parents Palace, the Friends Palace always holds Tian Liang: among your friends and team there is often someone who looks out for you. The Children Palace star is not fixed.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, elders are warm and steady, a safe harbour. When fallen, elders tend to fret and worry about you. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Zi, Chou, Hai; Strong: Yin, You, Xu; Fair: Shen; Weak: Wu, Wei; Fallen: Mao, Chen, Si.

The Parents Palace forms a trine with the Children and Friends Palaces (the generation above, the generation below, and friends and team members read as one group), and it sits between the Life Palace and the Mind Palace. Opposite is the Health Palace; we only read it as the star shining into the Parents Palace and make no health readings. The table shows, for each of the twelve branches Tai Yin can occupy in the Parents Palace, the star shining in from opposite and the major stars of the Life, Mind, Children and Friends Palaces.

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Tian Tong with Tai Yin (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Tai Yin exalted, Tian Tong strong; Wu: Tai Yin weak, Tian Tong fallen. Shining in from opposite: empty palace; Life: Tian Fu; Mind: Wu Qu and Tan Lang. About 16.9% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders are gentle, attentive and around a lot. In Zi both stars are strong and the relationship is at its most settled; in Wu both are out of place, and family matters can weigh on you. Further reading: Tian Tong in the Parents Palace.

Tai Yang with Tai Yin (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Tai Yin exalted, Tai Yang weak; Wei: Tai Yin weak, Tai Yang favorable. Shining in from opposite: empty palace; Life: Wu Qu and Tian Fu; Mind: Tan Lang. About 17.2% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Sun and Moon together in the Parents Palace: elders are warm one moment and delicate the next, and the mood at home follows their feelings. In Chou the care is more inward; in Wei it is more outgoing. Further reading: Tai Yang in the Parents Palace.

Tian Ji with Tai Yin (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Tai Yin strong, Tian Ji favorable; Shen: Tai Yin fair, Tian Ji favorable. Shining in from opposite: empty palace; Life: Tian Fu; Mind: Zi Wei and Tan Lang. About 17.7% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders are sensitive and clever; they often plan for you and look after your feelings, and they adapt how they raise you to circumstances. Further reading: Tian Ji in the Parents Palace.

Tai Yin alone, facing Tian Tong (Mao or You)

Mao: Tai Yin fallen; You: Tai Yin strong. Shining in from opposite: Tian Tong; Life: Zi Wei and Tian Fu; Mind: Tan Lang. About 18.0% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Tai Yin sits alone with Tian Tong shining in from opposite: elders are gentle and easygoing. In You, Tai Yin is strong and the relationship is settled; in Mao it is fallen, and elders' moods are easily shaken by family matters.

Tai Yin alone, facing Tai Yang (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Tai Yin fallen; Xu: Tai Yin strong. Shining in from opposite: Tai Yang; Life: Tian Fu; Mind: Lian Zhen and Tan Lang. About 17.2% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Tai Yin sits alone with Tai Yang shining in from opposite. In Xu, Tai Yin is strong and Tai Yang opposite in Chen is too: elders are attentive and warm. In Chen, Tai Yin is fallen and Tai Yang opposite is weak: elders worry more.

Tai Yin alone, facing Tian Ji (Si or Hai)

Si: Tai Yin fallen; Hai: Tai Yin exalted. Shining in from opposite: Tian Ji; Life: Lian Zhen and Tian Fu; Mind: Tan Lang. About 13.1% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Tai Yin sits alone with Tian Ji shining in from opposite: elders are gentle and attentive, and change their minds often. In Hai, Tai Yin is exalted and the relationship is at its warmest; in Si it is fallen, and elders tend to overthink.

Birth-year transformations in the Parents Palace

• Tai Yin with Hua Lu (born in a Ding year): People born in a Ding year have Tai Yin Hua Lu in the Parents Palace: elders take thoughtful care of you and the relationship is warm. In our sample, about 8.5% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
• Tai Yin with Hua Quan (born in a Wu year): People born in a Wu year have Tai Yin Hua Quan in the Parents Palace: gentle as your elders are, they have firm views. In our sample, about 9.4% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace carry the birth-year Hua Quan.
• Tai Yin with Hua Ke (born in a Geng or Gui year): People born in a Geng or Gui year have Tai Yin Hua Ke in the Parents Palace: elders have grace and good taste. In our sample, about 22.9% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ke.
• Tai Yin with Hua Ji (born in a Yi year): People born in a Yi year have Tai Yin Hua Ji in the Parents Palace: you and your elders tend to worry about each other and guess at each other's feelings. Say your worries out loud. In our sample, about 10.6% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ji.

Getting along

Thank your elders for their care, and let them know you can look after yourself.

About 41.7% of charts with Tai Yin in the Parents Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 41.9% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Parents Palace usually show up as more friction and more differences of opinion with elders or bosses, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship with your parents.

What our sample shows

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s parents' fortunes or family bonds.

Other major stars in the Parents Palace