Ju Men in the Mind Palace: What You Really Need Inside
With Ju Men in the Mind Palace, your mind runs deep and can be suspicious; you are in the habit of seeing the problems in a situation first. Your inner life has real depth, and you find it hard to truly put your worries down.
Your inner world
Classical texts say Ju Men in this palace means "much brooding". The modern reading: inside you there is a commentator who never stops talking. The upside is sharp observation and insight; the lesson is self-doubt and having too much to say inside your own head.
- What you need inside: You need to think things through and to be understood.
- How you enjoy life: Reading, research, deep conversation, writing, analysis.
- Under pressure: Under pressure you go over things again and again and start doubting yourself or others.
Outside and inside: the Life and Mind Palaces
When Ju Men is in the Mind Palace, the Life Palace always holds Tai Yin: gentle and sensitive on the outside, yet inside full of debate and questions. People think you are soft, but you think more than anyone.
This is built into the chart: counting two palaces backward from Ju Men always lands on Tai Yin, and the Life Palace always sits two palaces backward from the Mind Palace. Further reading: Tai Yin in the Life Palace.
The Wealth–Mind axis and the Travel–Spouse–Mind triad
Opposite the Mind Palace is the Wealth Palace: the Wealth Palace shows how you earn, the Mind Palace shows your state of mind and what you enjoy, and that is what decides how the money gets spent. Its triad is the Travel and Spouse Palaces, so your inner needs are tied to how you come across in the world and how you love. When Ju Men is in the Mind Palace, the major stars of the Wealth, Travel and Spouse Palaces are all not fixed.
Bright and fallen positions
When bright, your thinking has depth and you hold views of your own. When fallen, you are suspicious and anxious, and can get trapped by the voice in your head. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Yin, Mao, Shen, You; Strong: Zi, Si, Wu, Hai; Weak: Chou, Wei; Fallen: Chen, Xu.
| Mind Palace in | Brightness | Shares the palace with | Opposite (Wealth) | Your Life Palace | Travel | Spouse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yin | Exalted | Tai Yang | empty palace | Tian Tong and Tai Yin | empty palace | empty palace |
| Mao | Exalted | Tian Ji | empty palace | Tai Yang and Tai Yin | empty palace | Tian Tong |
| Chen | Fallen | alone | Tian Tong | Tian Ji and Tai Yin | empty palace | Tai Yang |
| Si | Strong | alone | Tai Yang | Tai Yin | Tian Tong | Tian Ji |
| Wu | Strong | alone | Tian Ji | Tai Yin | Tai Yang | empty palace |
| Wei | Weak | Tian Tong | empty palace | Tai Yin | Tian Ji | empty palace |
| Shen | Exalted | Tai Yang | empty palace | Tian Tong and Tai Yin | empty palace | empty palace |
| You | Exalted | Tian Ji | empty palace | Tai Yang and Tai Yin | empty palace | Tian Tong |
| Xu | Fallen | alone | Tian Tong | Tian Ji and Tai Yin | empty palace | Tai Yang |
| Hai | Strong | alone | Tai Yang | Tai Yin | Tian Tong | Tian Ji |
| Zi | Strong | alone | Tian Ji | Tai Yin | Tai Yang | empty palace |
| Chou | Weak | Tian Tong | empty palace | Tai Yin | Tian Ji | empty palace |
"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.
The six combinations
Ju Men alone, facing Tian Ji (Zi or Wu)
Zi: Ju Men strong; Wu: Ju Men strong. Opposite (Wealth): Tian Ji; Life: Tai Yin. About 18.7% of charts with Ju Men in the Mind Palace fall into this group.
Inside you debate a lot; with Tian Ji opposite in the Wealth Palace, you earn with your brain. Classical texts call this "jade hidden in stone": the depth inside you shows only after life has tested you.
Tian Tong with Ju Men (Chou or Wei)
Chou: Ju Men weak, Tian Tong weak; Wei: Ju Men weak, Tian Tong weak. Opposite (Wealth): empty palace; Life: Tai Yin. About 13.7% of charts with Ju Men in the Mind Palace fall into this group.
You want peace inside, yet often carry grievances and doubts you cannot put into words. Find someone you can confide in, and do not keep your feelings bottled up. Further reading: Tian Tong in the Mind Palace.
Tai Yang with Ju Men (Yin or Shen)
Yin: Ju Men exalted, Tai Yang strong; Shen: Ju Men exalted, Tai Yang favorable. Opposite (Wealth): empty palace; Life: Tian Tong and Tai Yin. About 14.3% of charts with Ju Men in the Mind Palace fall into this group.
Warm-hearted and argumentative inside, you like to speak up and discuss, and often speak out for what is fair. In Yin, Tai Yang is bright and you are open and cheerful; in Shen you are more prone to overthinking. Further reading: Tai Yang in the Mind Palace.
Tian Ji with Ju Men (Mao or You)
Mao: Ju Men exalted, Tian Ji strong; You: Ju Men exalted, Tian Ji strong. Opposite (Wealth): empty palace; Life: Tai Yang and Tai Yin. About 17.8% of charts with Ju Men in the Mind Palace fall into this group.
Inside you debate and question a lot, and you like to think things all the way through. The upside is insight; the lesson is overthinking and finding it hard to let go. Further reading: Tian Ji in the Mind Palace.
Ju Men alone, facing Tian Tong (Chen or Xu)
Chen: Ju Men fallen; Xu: Ju Men fallen. Opposite (Wealth): Tian Tong; Life: Tian Ji and Tai Yin. About 18.0% of charts with Ju Men in the Mind Palace fall into this group.
Ju Men is fallen in Chen and Xu, so you are prone to suspicion; with Tian Tong opposite in the Wealth Palace, money comes in gently. Classical texts say that for people born in a Xin year, when Ju Men takes Hua Lu, this actually turns fortunate.
Ju Men alone, facing Tai Yang (Si or Hai)
Si: Ju Men strong; Hai: Ju Men strong. Opposite (Wealth): Tai Yang; Life: Tai Yin. About 17.6% of charts with Ju Men in the Mind Palace fall into this group.
Your mind is full of worries. With the Mind Palace in Hai, Tai Yang opposite in Si is bright, lighting up your doubts so your thinking turns positive; with the Mind Palace in Si, Tai Yang opposite in Hai is fallen, and you tend to brood in silence.
Birth-year transformations in the Mind Palace
- Ju Men with Hua Lu (born in a Xin year): For people born in a Xin year, Ju Men takes Hua Lu in the Mind Palace: thinking things through becomes a pleasure, and your inner questions turn into fuel for research. In our sample, about 11.3% of charts with Ju Men in the Mind Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
- Ju Men with Hua Quan (born in a Gui year): For people born in a Gui year, Ju Men takes Hua Quan in the Mind Palace: you hold strong views and have your own way of seeing things. In our sample, about 11.8% of charts with Ju Men in the Mind Palace carry the birth-year Hua Quan.
- Ju Men with Hua Ji (born in a Ding year): For people born in a Ding year, Ju Men takes Hua Ji in the Mind Palace: you are prone to suspicion and getting stuck on a thought. Say it out loud or write it down, and do not let your thoughts go round in circles. In our sample, about 9.4% of charts with Ju Men in the Mind Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ji.
Finding your balance
Turn the commentary in your head into writing, and it goes from a burden to a piece of work.
About 40.1% of charts with Ju Men in the Mind Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.1% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Mind Palace usually show up as a busy mind that finds it hard to switch off, so you need a few more ways of looking after yourself; they do not mean you are unhappy.
What our sample shows
How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s good fortune.
Other major stars in the Mind Palace
A straight word: the Mind Palace is about your state of mind and how you enjoy life, not how much luck you have
The Mind Palace describes what you need inside, how you enjoy yourself and how you cope under pressure. It cannot measure how blessed a person is. Classical texts also read lifespan from this palace; this site does not, and gives no health reading of any kind. A state of mind is something you can practise; the chart only helps you see your own tendencies. Everything on this site is for reference and entertainment only.
Find out which star sits in your Mind Palace
Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Mind Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set (Wealth, Travel and Spouse Palaces).
Ju Men in the Mind Palace: FAQ
Why does someone with Ju Men in the Mind Palace always have Tai Yin in the Life Palace?
It comes from how the stars are placed. Counting two palaces back from Ju Men always lands on Tai Yin, and the Life Palace always sits two palaces back from the Mind Palace. So when Ju Men is in the Mind Palace, Tai Yin is always in the Life Palace.
How common is Ju Men in the Mind Palace?
Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.2% have Ju Men in the Mind Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Mind Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.