Wu Qu in the Parents Palace: You and the Generation Above

Wu Qu in the Parents Palace means your parents or elders are practical, strict and disciplined; they show care through what they do rather than what they say.

Parents, elders and bosses

People with Wu Qu here learn from their elders how to get things done and how to carry responsibility. The lesson is that the love is on the firm side: lots of demands, little praise, and you have to translate the care yourself.

• With your parents: Practical, strict parents who value ability and responsibility.
• Elders, bosses and teachers: Bosses and teachers with high standards who care about results.
• Rules and authority: You value rules and efficiency, and you respect authority that is clear about rewards and consequences.

You and the generation above: the Life and Parents Palaces

With Wu Qu in the Parents Palace, the Life Palace always holds Tian Tong: you are easygoing and go with the flow, while the generation above you is practical, strict and big on discipline.

This is built into the chart: counting one palace backward from Wu Qu always lands on Tian Tong, and the Life Palace always sits one palace backward from the Parents Palace. Further reading: Tian Tong in the Life Palace.

Parents and Mind: upbringing and inner life

Counting one palace forward from Wu Qu always lands on Tai Yang, and the Mind Palace always sits one palace forward from the Parents Palace, so with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace the Mind Palace always holds Tai Yang: the setting and upbringing your elders gave you tends to leave a lasting tint on your inner life. Further reading: Tai Yang in the Mind Palace.

With Wu Qu in the Parents Palace, the Children Palace always holds Lian Zhen and the Friends Palace always holds Zi Wei. Zi Wei, Lian Zhen and Wu Qu always form a trine.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, elders can give you concrete support and resources. In a neutral position, elders are stern and say little, and the relationship can feel cool. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Chou, Chen, Wei, Xu; Strong: Zi, Wu; Favorable: Yin, Shen; Fair: Mao, You; Neutral: Si, Hai.

The Parents Palace forms a trine with the Children and Friends Palaces (the generation above, the generation below, and friends and team members read as one group), and it sits between the Life Palace and the Mind Palace. Opposite is the Health Palace; we only read it as the star shining into the Parents Palace and make no health readings. The table shows, for each of the twelve branches Wu Qu can occupy in the Parents Palace, the star shining in from opposite and the major stars of the Life, Mind, Children and Friends Palaces.

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Wu Qu with Tian Fu (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Wu Qu strong, Tian Fu exalted; Wu: Wu Qu strong, Tian Fu strong. Shining in from opposite: Qi Sha; Life: Tian Tong; Mind: Tai Yang and Tai Yin. About 17.3% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Two wealth stars guard the Parents Palace: elders are practical and steady and can give you concrete support. The downside is that they rarely put feelings into words. Further reading: Tian Fu in the Parents Palace.

Wu Qu with Tan Lang (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Wu Qu exalted, Tan Lang exalted; Wei: Wu Qu exalted, Tan Lang exalted. Shining in from opposite: empty palace; Life: Tian Tong and Tai Yin; Mind: Tai Yang and Ju Men. About 14.1% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders are capable and know how to enjoy life, with a sharp eye for opportunity. The old saying is that Wu Qu with Tan Lang does not bloom in youth; the relationship with elders tends to improve as you get older. Further reading: Tan Lang in the Parents Palace.

Wu Qu with Tian Xiang (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Wu Qu favorable, Tian Xiang exalted; Shen: Wu Qu favorable, Tian Xiang exalted. Shining in from opposite: Po Jun; Life: Tian Tong and Ju Men; Mind: Tai Yang and Tian Liang. About 15.5% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders are practical and principled, teaching you how to get things done and how to conduct yourself. Further reading: Tian Xiang in the Parents Palace.

Wu Qu with Qi Sha (Mao or You)

Mao: Wu Qu fair, Qi Sha strong; You: Wu Qu fair, Qi Sha strong. Shining in from opposite: Tian Fu; Life: Tian Tong and Tian Liang; Mind: Tai Yang. About 16.3% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders are tough and strict, big on independence and toughening up, and you easily butt heads. A little more appreciation on both sides softens things a lot. Further reading: Qi Sha in the Parents Palace.

Wu Qu alone, facing Tan Lang (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Wu Qu exalted; Xu: Wu Qu exalted. Shining in from opposite: Tan Lang; Life: Tian Tong; Mind: Tai Yang. About 17.0% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Wu Qu is exalted in Chen and Xu, with Tan Lang shining in from opposite: elders are practical and capable, and also know how to enjoy life.

Wu Qu with Po Jun (Si or Hai)

Si: Wu Qu neutral, Po Jun neutral; Hai: Wu Qu neutral, Po Jun neutral. Shining in from opposite: Tian Xiang; Life: Tian Tong; Mind: Tai Yang. About 19.8% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders demand a lot and keep changing their methods; the family often goes through transitions. Being clear about what each of you expects matters more than anything. Further reading: Po Jun in the Parents Palace.

Birth-year transformations in the Parents Palace

• Wu Qu with Hua Lu (born in a Ji year): People born in a Ji year have Wu Qu Hua Lu in the Parents Palace: elders can give you real resources and support. In our sample, about 8.9% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
• Wu Qu with Hua Quan (born in a Geng year): People born in a Geng year have Wu Qu Hua Quan in the Parents Palace: elders or bosses are demanding and keep a close eye on things. In our sample, about 11.9% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace carry the birth-year Hua Quan.
• Wu Qu with Hua Ke (born in a Jia year): People born in a Jia year have Wu Qu Hua Ke in the Parents Palace: elders are organised and keep their word. In our sample, about 10.2% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ke.
• Wu Qu with Hua Ji (born in a Ren year): People born in a Ren year have Wu Qu Hua Ji in the Parents Palace: money or responsibilities can cause friction with elders. Spell things out clearly. In our sample, about 10.2% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ji.

Getting along

See your elders' strictness as their way of caring, and let them know you need to hear some appreciation too.

About 41.8% of charts with Wu Qu in the Parents Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 41.9% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Parents Palace usually show up as more friction and more differences of opinion with elders or bosses, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship with your parents.

What our sample shows

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s parents' fortunes or family bonds.

Other major stars in the Parents Palace