Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace: You and the Generation Above
Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace means your parents or elders have strong personalities and firm principles; their feelings run deep and their discipline is strict.
Parents, elders and bosses
People with Lian Zhen here have a relationship with elders full of tension: very close when things are good, and fierce when they clash. The lesson is the tug-of-war between emotion and principle; as you grow up, you find your own way of relating to them.
- With your parents: Principled, intense parents who love deeply and discipline firmly.
- Elders, bosses and teachers: Bosses and teachers who expect loyalty and principle.
- Rules and authority: You hold authority to your own standard, and you only follow once you agree.
You and the generation above: the Life and Parents Palaces
With Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace, the Life Palace star is not fixed: it can be Ju Men, Tian Liang or Tai Yin, or the Life Palace can be empty.
With Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace, the Life Palace star changes with the branch; the table below lists it for each one.
Parents and Mind: upbringing and inner life
With Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace, the Mind Palace star is not fixed; the table below lists it for each branch.
With Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace, the Children Palace always holds Zi Wei and the Friends Palace always holds Wu Qu. Zi Wei, Lian Zhen and Wu Qu always form a trine.
Bright and fallen positions
When bright, elders have drive and principle, and they are a source of strength for you. When fallen, elders' moods swing a lot and the relationship gets tense easily. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Yin, Shen; Fair: Chou, Chen, Wei, Xu; Neutral: Zi, Mao, Wu, You; Fallen: Si, Hai.
The Parents Palace forms a trine with the Children and Friends Palaces (the generation above, the generation below, and friends and team members read as one group), and it sits between the Life Palace and the Mind Palace. Opposite is the Health Palace; we only read it as the star shining into the Parents Palace and make no health readings. The table shows, for each of the twelve branches Lian Zhen can occupy in the Parents Palace, the star shining in from opposite and the major stars of the Life, Mind, Children and Friends Palaces.
| Parents Palace in | Brightness | Shares the palace with | Opposite (shining in) | Your Life Palace | Mind | Children | Friends |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yin | Exalted | alone | Tan Lang | empty palace | empty palace | Zi Wei and Tian Xiang | Wu Qu and Tian Fu |
| Mao | Neutral | Po Jun | Tian Xiang | empty palace | empty palace | Zi Wei and Qi Sha | Wu Qu and Tan Lang |
| Chen | Fair | Tian Fu | Qi Sha | empty palace | Tai Yin | Zi Wei | Wu Qu and Tian Xiang |
| Si | Fallen | Tan Lang | empty palace | Tai Yin | Ju Men | Zi Wei and Po Jun | Wu Qu and Qi Sha |
| Wu | Neutral | Tian Xiang | Po Jun | Ju Men | Tian Liang | Zi Wei and Tian Fu | Wu Qu |
| Wei | Fair | Qi Sha | Tian Fu | Tian Liang | empty palace | Zi Wei and Tan Lang | Wu Qu and Po Jun |
| Shen | Exalted | alone | Tan Lang | empty palace | empty palace | Zi Wei and Tian Xiang | Wu Qu and Tian Fu |
| You | Neutral | Po Jun | Tian Xiang | empty palace | empty palace | Zi Wei and Qi Sha | Wu Qu and Tan Lang |
| Xu | Fair | Tian Fu | Qi Sha | empty palace | Tai Yin | Zi Wei | Wu Qu and Tian Xiang |
| Hai | Fallen | Tan Lang | empty palace | Tai Yin | Ju Men | Zi Wei and Po Jun | Wu Qu and Qi Sha |
| Zi | Neutral | Tian Xiang | Po Jun | Ju Men | Tian Liang | Zi Wei and Tian Fu | Wu Qu |
| Chou | Fair | Qi Sha | Tian Fu | Tian Liang | empty palace | Zi Wei and Tan Lang | Wu Qu and Po Jun |
"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.
The six combinations
Lian Zhen with Tian Xiang (Zi or Wu)
Zi: Lian Zhen neutral, Tian Xiang exalted; Wu: Lian Zhen neutral, Tian Xiang exalted. Shining in from opposite: Po Jun; Life: Ju Men; Mind: Tian Liang. About 17.7% of charts with Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace fall into this group.
Elders value principle and stick to the rules. Watch for Tian Xiang being squeezed between a punishment star and a Ji: the relationship can be pulled around by outside events. Further reading: Tian Xiang in the Parents Palace.
Lian Zhen with Qi Sha (Chou or Wei)
Chou: Lian Zhen fair, Qi Sha exalted; Wei: Lian Zhen fair, Qi Sha exalted. Shining in from opposite: Tian Fu; Life: Tian Liang; Mind: empty palace. About 16.5% of charts with Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace fall into this group.
Elders are strict and expect a lot, so the relationship has tension. The old texts say Lian Zhen with Qi Sha in Chou and Wei builds wealth; the modern reading is that elders made their way by hard work and expect the same of you. Further reading: Qi Sha in the Parents Palace.
Lian Zhen alone, facing Tan Lang (Yin or Shen)
Yin: Lian Zhen exalted; Shen: Lian Zhen exalted. Shining in from opposite: Tan Lang; Life: empty palace; Mind: empty palace. About 16.6% of charts with Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace fall into this group.
Lian Zhen is exalted in Yin and Shen, with Tan Lang shining in from opposite: elders have principles and rules, and are also warm and changeable.
Lian Zhen with Po Jun (Mao or You)
Mao: Lian Zhen neutral, Po Jun fallen; You: Lian Zhen neutral, Po Jun fallen. Shining in from opposite: Tian Xiang; Life: empty palace; Mind: empty palace. About 16.1% of charts with Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace fall into this group.
The relationship with elders goes through big shifts and big emotional swings. With Hua Lu or auspicious stars, each shift tends to bring a new understanding between you. Further reading: Po Jun in the Parents Palace.
Lian Zhen with Tian Fu (Chen or Xu)
Chen: Lian Zhen fair, Tian Fu exalted; Xu: Lian Zhen fair, Tian Fu exalted. Shining in from opposite: Qi Sha; Life: empty palace; Mind: Tai Yin. About 15.3% of charts with Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace fall into this group.
Elders are principled and steady, shrewd and dependable. This is the most stable Lian Zhen combination in the Parents Palace. Further reading: Tian Fu in the Parents Palace.
Lian Zhen with Tan Lang (Si or Hai)
Si: Lian Zhen fallen, Tan Lang fallen; Hai: Lian Zhen fallen, Tan Lang fallen. Shining in from opposite: empty palace; Life: Tai Yin; Mind: Ju Men. About 17.8% of charts with Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace fall into this group.
Elders are lively and full of character, with strong feelings and moods. Both stars are fallen in Si and Hai, so boundaries between you are the key. Further reading: Tan Lang in the Parents Palace.
Birth-year transformations in the Parents Palace
- Lian Zhen with Hua Lu (born in a Jia year): People born in a Jia year have Lian Zhen Hua Lu in the Parents Palace: the bond with elders is warm and lively, and they often back you. In our sample, about 12.4% of charts with Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
- Lian Zhen with Hua Ji (born in a Bing year): People born in a Bing year have Lian Zhen Hua Ji in the Parents Palace: emotional clashes with elders come easily. Cool down first, then talk. In our sample, about 9.0% of charts with Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ji.
Getting along
Respect your elders' principles, and hold on to your own boundaries.
About 40.1% of charts with Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 41.9% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Parents Palace usually show up as more friction and more differences of opinion with elders or bosses, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship with your parents.
What our sample shows
How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s parents' fortunes or family bonds.
Other major stars in the Parents Palace
A straight word: the Parents Palace is about how you get on with elders, not about your parents' health or lifespan
The Parents Palace describes how you relate to your parents, elders, bosses and teachers, and how you meet rules and authority. It cannot tell you anything about your parents' health, lifespan or fortunes. Classical phrases such as "harming the parents" or "a thin bond with the parents" are not used on this site. The palace opposite is the Health Palace, which tradition also used to judge the body; we do not make readings of that kind, and health questions belong with a medical professional. Everything on this site is for reference and entertainment only.
Find out which star sits in your Parents Palace
Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Parents Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set.
Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace: FAQ
Does Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace mean I do not get along with my parents?
Lian Zhen here describes elders with strong principles and strong feelings, so the relationship has tension, but tension is not the same as not getting along. We do not predict family bonds or what happens to your parents; we only describe tendencies in how you relate.
How common is Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace?
Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.6% have Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Parents Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.