Po Jun in the Parents Palace: You and the Generation Above

Po Jun in the Parents Palace means your relationship with your parents or elders changes a lot; your outlooks differ widely, and you often go through family changes together.

Parents, elders and bosses

People with Po Jun here do not buy into traditional authority easily, and relationships with bosses can go up and down too. The lesson is finding a way to respect each other within your differences.

You and the generation above: the Life and Parents Palaces

With Po Jun in the Parents Palace, the Life Palace star is not fixed: it can be Tai Yang, Tian Ji or Tian Tong, or the Life Palace can be empty.

With Po Jun in the Parents Palace, the Life Palace star changes with the branch; the table below lists it for each one.

Parents and Mind: upbringing and inner life

With Po Jun in the Parents Palace, the Mind Palace star is not fixed; the table below lists it for each branch.

With Po Jun in the Parents Palace, the Children Palace always holds Qi Sha and the Friends Palace always holds Tan Lang. The Sha-Po-Lang trio always forms a trine.

Bright and fallen positions

When bright, elders are open-minded and support you in going your own way. When fallen, clashes of outlook with elders are frequent and the relationship swings a lot. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Zi, Wu; Strong: Chou, Chen, Wei, Xu; Favorable: Yin, Shen; Neutral: Si, Hai; Fallen: Mao, You.

The Parents Palace forms a trine with the Children and Friends Palaces (the generation above, the generation below, and friends and team members read as one group), and it sits between the Life Palace and the Mind Palace. Opposite is the Health Palace; we only read it as the star shining into the Parents Palace and make no health readings. The table shows, for each of the twelve branches Po Jun can occupy in the Parents Palace, the star shining in from opposite and the major stars of the Life, Mind, Children and Friends Palaces.

Parents Palace inBrightnessShares the palace withOpposite (shining in)Your Life PalaceMindChildrenFriends
YinFavorablealoneWu Qu and Tian Xiangempty palaceempty palaceQi ShaTan Lang
MaoFallenLian ZhenTian Xiangempty palaceempty palaceZi Wei and Qi ShaWu Qu and Tan Lang
ChenStrongaloneZi Wei and Tian Xiangempty palaceTian TongQi ShaTan Lang
SiNeutralWu QuTian XiangTian TongTai YangLian Zhen and Qi ShaZi Wei and Tan Lang
WuExaltedaloneLian Zhen and Tian XiangTai YangTian JiQi ShaTan Lang
WeiStrongZi WeiTian XiangTian Jiempty palaceWu Qu and Qi ShaLian Zhen and Tan Lang
ShenFavorablealoneWu Qu and Tian Xiangempty palaceempty palaceQi ShaTan Lang
YouFallenLian ZhenTian Xiangempty palaceempty palaceZi Wei and Qi ShaWu Qu and Tan Lang
XuStrongaloneZi Wei and Tian Xiangempty palaceTian TongQi ShaTan Lang
HaiNeutralWu QuTian XiangTian TongTai YangLian Zhen and Qi ShaZi Wei and Tan Lang
ZiExaltedaloneLian Zhen and Tian XiangTai YangTian JiQi ShaTan Lang
ChouStrongZi WeiTian XiangTian Jiempty palaceWu Qu and Qi ShaLian Zhen and Tan Lang

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Po Jun alone, facing Lian Zhen and Tian Xiang (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Po Jun exalted; Wu: Po Jun exalted. Shining in from opposite: Lian Zhen and Tian Xiang; Life: Tai Yang; Mind: Tian Ji. About 16.2% of charts with Po Jun in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Po Jun is exalted in Zi and Wu, with Lian Zhen and Tian Xiang shining in from opposite: elders are open-minded and willing to change, and also keep the rules and their word.

Zi Wei with Po Jun (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Po Jun strong, Zi Wei exalted; Wei: Po Jun strong, Zi Wei exalted. Shining in from opposite: Tian Xiang; Life: Tian Ji; Mind: empty palace. About 17.9% of charts with Po Jun in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders carry weight and also want to reform things, so the house rules keep being rewritten. Your relationship with them adjusts as the family changes, and grows a little more mature each time. Further reading: Zi Wei in the Parents Palace.

Po Jun alone, facing Wu Qu and Tian Xiang (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Po Jun favorable; Shen: Po Jun favorable. Shining in from opposite: Wu Qu and Tian Xiang; Life: empty palace; Mind: empty palace. About 14.1% of charts with Po Jun in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Po Jun sits alone with Wu Qu and Tian Xiang shining in from opposite: the relationship with elders changes a lot, but elders themselves are practical and dependable.

Lian Zhen with Po Jun (Mao or You)

Mao: Po Jun fallen, Lian Zhen neutral; You: Po Jun fallen, Lian Zhen neutral. Shining in from opposite: Tian Xiang; Life: empty palace; Mind: empty palace. About 16.1% of charts with Po Jun in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

The relationship with elders goes through big shifts and big emotional swings. With Hua Lu or auspicious stars, each shift tends to bring a new understanding between you. Further reading: Lian Zhen in the Parents Palace.

Po Jun alone, facing Zi Wei and Tian Xiang (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Po Jun strong; Xu: Po Jun strong. Shining in from opposite: Zi Wei and Tian Xiang; Life: empty palace; Mind: Tian Tong. About 16.5% of charts with Po Jun in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Po Jun is strong in Chen and Xu, with Zi Wei and Tian Xiang shining in from opposite: elders have the nerve to reform, and they also value order and appearances.

Wu Qu with Po Jun (Si or Hai)

Si: Po Jun neutral, Wu Qu neutral; Hai: Po Jun neutral, Wu Qu neutral. Shining in from opposite: Tian Xiang; Life: Tian Tong; Mind: Tai Yang. About 19.2% of charts with Po Jun in the Parents Palace fall into this group.

Elders demand a lot and keep changing their methods; the family often goes through transitions. Being clear about what each of you expects matters more than anything. Further reading: Wu Qu in the Parents Palace.

Birth-year transformations in the Parents Palace

Getting along

Different outlooks are fine; what matters is respecting each other.

About 42.7% of charts with Po Jun in the Parents Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 41.9% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Parents Palace usually show up as more friction and more differences of opinion with elders or bosses, which calls for more talking things through; they do not mean a bad relationship with your parents.

What our sample shows

8.6%of charts have Po Jun in the Parents Palace (alone or with another major star)
19.2%of those fall into the most common group: Wu Qu with Po Jun
25.3%of those have a birth-year transformation on Po Jun itself
42.7%of those also have a Sha star in the Parents Palace

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s parents' fortunes or family bonds.

Other major stars in the Parents Palace

Zi Wei in the Parents PalaceLife Palace always holds Tian Ji Tian Ji in the Parents PalaceMind Palace always holds Zi Wei Tai Yang in the Parents PalaceLife Palace always holds Wu Qu Wu Qu in the Parents PalaceLife: Tian Tong · Mind: Tai Yang Tian Tong in the Parents PalaceMind Palace always holds Wu Qu Lian Zhen in the Parents Palacethe Restraint Star in the Parents Palace Tian Fu in the Parents PalaceMind Palace always holds Tai Yin Tai Yin in the Parents PalaceLife: Tian Fu · Mind: Tan Lang Tan Lang in the Parents PalaceLife: Tai Yin · Mind: Ju Men Ju Men in the Parents PalaceLife: Tan Lang · Mind: Tian Xiang Tian Xiang in the Parents PalaceLife: Ju Men · Mind: Tian Liang Tian Liang in the Parents PalaceLife: Tian Xiang · Mind: Qi Sha Qi Sha in the Parents PalaceLife Palace always holds Tian Liang

A straight word: the Parents Palace is about how you get on with elders, not about your parents' health or lifespan

The Parents Palace describes how you relate to your parents, elders, bosses and teachers, and how you meet rules and authority. It cannot tell you anything about your parents' health, lifespan or fortunes. Classical phrases such as "harming the parents" or "a thin bond with the parents" are not used on this site. The palace opposite is the Health Palace, which tradition also used to judge the body; we do not make readings of that kind, and health questions belong with a medical professional. Everything on this site is for reference and entertainment only.

Find out which star sits in your Parents Palace

Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Parents Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set.

Po Jun in the Parents Palace: FAQ

Does Po Jun in the Parents Palace mean a weak bond with my parents?

Po Jun here describes big differences in outlook with elders and a relationship that changes a lot; it does not mean a weak bond. We do not predict family bonds or what happens to your parents, only tendencies in how you relate.

How common is Po Jun in the Parents Palace?

Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.6% have Po Jun in the Parents Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Parents Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.