Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace: The Peers Closest to You
With Tian Ji in your Siblings Palace, you and your siblings or peers are forever trading ideas and suggesting things to each other. It is a thinking kind of relationship.
Siblings and peers
People with Tian Ji here usually have bright, quick-witted peers who are good to talk to and genuinely helpful. The lesson is that these relationships change a lot: the peers around you come and go, joint plans keep being adjusted, and a steady friendship takes time to build.
- With siblings: Your siblings or peers are clever and full of ideas, and often act as your advisers.
- With peers and colleagues: Your circle of colleagues turns over a lot; a change of job or setting often brings a whole new group.
- Working together and partnerships: You do well planning and talking things through together; just be clear about who carries out which part.
You and the peers around you: the Life and Siblings Palaces
When Tian Ji is in the Siblings Palace, the Life Palace always holds Zi Wei: you have firm views and think big, and the peers around you are the ones who come up with ideas for you.
This is built into the chart: counting one palace forward from Tian Ji always lands on Zi Wei, and the Life Palace always sits one palace forward from the Siblings Palace. Further reading: Zi Wei in the Life Palace.
Siblings and spouse
With Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace, the major star of the Spouse Palace is not fixed; the table below lists it for each branch.
When Tian Ji is in the Siblings Palace, the stars in the Friends Palace and the Property Palace are not fixed, and the star in the Spouse Palace also changes with the branch.
Bright and fallen positions
When Tian Ji is bright, your peers make good advisers and you spark ideas in each other. When Tian Ji is fallen, your peers have many ideas and change their minds quickly, so joint projects tend to go back and forth. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Zi, Wu; Strong: Mao, You; Favorable: Yin, Shen; Fair: Chen, Xu; Neutral: Si, Hai; Fallen: Chou, Wei.
Opposite the Siblings Palace is the Friends Palace (the Siblings–Friends axis: your own people and outsiders), and its triad is the Property and Health Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Friends, Life, Spouse and Property Palaces for each of the twelve branches Tian Ji can occupy in the Siblings Palace (this site gives no health readings, so the Health Palace is left out).
| Siblings Palace in | Brightness | Shares the palace with | Opposite (Friends) | Your Life Palace | Spouse | Property |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yin | Favorable | Tai Yin | empty palace | Zi Wei and Tan Lang | Tian Fu | Tian Liang |
| Mao | Strong | Ju Men | empty palace | Zi Wei and Tian Xiang | Tan Lang | empty palace |
| Chen | Fair | Tian Liang | empty palace | Zi Wei and Qi Sha | Tian Xiang | empty palace |
| Si | Neutral | alone | Tai Yin | Zi Wei | Qi Sha | empty palace |
| Wu | Exalted | alone | Ju Men | Zi Wei and Po Jun | empty palace | Tai Yin |
| Wei | Fallen | alone | Tian Liang | Zi Wei and Tian Fu | Po Jun | Ju Men |
| Shen | Favorable | Tai Yin | empty palace | Zi Wei and Tan Lang | Tian Fu | Tian Liang |
| You | Strong | Ju Men | empty palace | Zi Wei and Tian Xiang | Tan Lang | empty palace |
| Xu | Fair | Tian Liang | empty palace | Zi Wei and Qi Sha | Tian Xiang | empty palace |
| Hai | Neutral | alone | Tai Yin | Zi Wei | Qi Sha | empty palace |
| Zi | Exalted | alone | Ju Men | Zi Wei and Po Jun | empty palace | Tai Yin |
| Chou | Fallen | alone | Tian Liang | Zi Wei and Tian Fu | Po Jun | Ju Men |
"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.
The six combinations
Tian Ji alone, facing Ju Men (Zi or Wu)
Zi: Tian Ji exalted; Wu: Tian Ji exalted. Opposite (Friends): Ju Men; Life: Zi Wei and Po Jun; Spouse: empty palace. About 18.8% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
Tian Ji is bright in Zi and Wu, so your peers make good advisers; opposite, in the Friends Palace, sits Ju Men, so outside friends love to debate and gossip runs high.
Tian Ji alone, facing Tian Liang (Chou or Wei)
Chou: Tian Ji fallen; Wei: Tian Ji fallen. Opposite (Friends): Tian Liang; Life: Zi Wei and Tian Fu; Spouse: Po Jun. About 17.5% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
Tian Ji is fallen in Chou and Wei, so ties with peers tend to go back and forth; opposite, in the Friends Palace, sits Tian Liang, so outside there are often friends or elders who look after you.
Tian Ji with Tai Yin (Yin or Shen)
Yin: Tian Ji favorable, Tai Yin strong; Shen: Tian Ji favorable, Tai Yin fair. Opposite (Friends): empty palace; Life: Zi Wei and Tan Lang; Spouse: Tian Fu. About 17.5% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
Your peers are sensitive and clever; you advise each other and look after each other, and the relationship adjusts as circumstances change. Further reading: Tai Yin in the Siblings Palace.
Tian Ji with Ju Men (Mao or You)
Mao: Tian Ji strong, Ju Men exalted; You: Tian Ji strong, Ju Men exalted. Opposite (Friends): empty palace; Life: Zi Wei and Tian Xiang; Spouse: Tan Lang. About 16.2% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
There is a lot of discussion and debate among your peers: sharp, but prone to nitpicking. Once things are talked through, you actually grow closer. Further reading: Ju Men in the Siblings Palace.
Tian Ji with Tian Liang (Chen or Xu)
Chen: Tian Ji fair, Tian Liang exalted; Xu: Tian Ji fair, Tian Liang exalted. Opposite (Friends): empty palace; Life: Zi Wei and Qi Sha; Spouse: Tian Xiang. About 15.5% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
Your peers are part adviser, part older sibling, and often give you suggestions and reminders. Further reading: Tian Liang in the Siblings Palace.
Tian Ji alone, facing Tai Yin (Si or Hai)
Si: Tian Ji neutral; Hai: Tian Ji neutral. Opposite (Friends): Tai Yin; Life: Zi Wei; Spouse: Qi Sha. About 14.4% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
Your own people are clever and full of ideas; opposite, in the Friends Palace, sits Tai Yin, so outside friends are sensitive and gentle.
Birth-year transformations in the Siblings Palace
- Tian Ji with Hua Lu (born in a Yi year): For people born in a Yi year, Tian Ji takes Hua Lu in the Siblings Palace: ideas flow easily between you and your peers, and you often bring each other opportunities. In our sample, about 10.9% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
- Tian Ji with Hua Quan (born in a Bing year): For people born in a Bing year, Tian Ji takes Hua Quan in the Siblings Palace: among your peers is someone full of ideas and very sure of them. In our sample, about 7.8% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace carry the birth-year Hua Quan.
- Tian Ji with Hua Ke (born in a Ding year): For people born in a Ding year, Tian Ji takes Hua Ke in the Siblings Palace: your peers tend to be learned and reasonable. In our sample, about 7.1% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ke.
- Tian Ji with Hua Ji (born in a Wu year): For people born in a Wu year, Tian Ji takes Hua Ji in the Siblings Palace: you and your peers can overthink and second-guess each other. If something is on your mind, just ask. In our sample, about 10.8% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ji.
Getting along
Swap ideas as often as you like, but once something is agreed, don’t keep changing it.
About 42.1% of charts with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.1% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Siblings Palace usually show up as friction and strong opinions among peers, calling for more communication and clearer boundaries; they do not mean you and your siblings are at odds.
What our sample shows
How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s number of siblings or how those siblings will fare.
Other major stars in the Siblings Palace
A straight word: the Siblings Palace is about how you get on with your peers, not how many siblings you have
The Siblings Palace describes how you relate to and deal with siblings, peers, colleagues and business partners. It cannot tell you how many brothers and sisters you have, where you come in the family, or whose life will turn out better; classical verdicts such as siblings "clashing" with you or "thin sibling ties" are never used on this site. Tradition also reads ready cash from this palace; we only treat it as a reminder to take extra care when money passes between you and your peers, and it is not lending or investment advice. Everything on this site is for reference and entertainment only.
Find out which star sits in your Siblings Palace
Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Siblings Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set.
Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace: FAQ
Why does someone with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace always have Zi Wei in the Life Palace?
It comes from how the stars are placed. Zi Wei always sits one palace forward from Tian Ji, and the Life Palace always sits one palace forward from the Siblings Palace. So when Tian Ji is in the Siblings Palace, Zi Wei is always in the Life Palace.
How common is Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace?
Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.4% have Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Siblings Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.