Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace: The Peers Closest to You
With Tian Tong in your Siblings Palace, you get along with your siblings or peers gently and easily, with little conflict. These are the people you can eat, drink and chat with.
Siblings and peers
People with Tian Tong here have an easygoing circle of peers who put little pressure on each other. The lesson is that it can be too easygoing: things that need discussing feel awkward to raise, and small problems can drag on into big ones.
- With siblings: Your siblings or peers are easygoing and easy to be around.
- With peers and colleagues: Relations with colleagues are relaxed, and the mood matters a lot.
- Working together and partnerships: Working together is pleasant, but someone has to divide the work and make the final call.
You and the peers around you: the Life and Siblings Palaces
When Tian Tong is in the Siblings Palace, the Life Palace always holds Wu Qu: you are practical, capable and decisive, while the peers around you are mild and go with the flow.
This is built into the chart: counting one palace forward from Tian Tong always lands on Wu Qu, and the Life Palace always sits one palace forward from the Siblings Palace. Further reading: Wu Qu in the Life Palace.
Siblings and spouse
With Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace, the major star of the Spouse Palace is not fixed; the table below lists it for each branch.
When Tian Tong is in the Siblings Palace, the Property Palace always holds Tian Ji. The star in the Friends Palace is not fixed.
Bright and fallen positions
When Tian Tong is bright, your peers are content and cheerful, a truly lucky kind of relationship. When Tian Tong is fallen, you want to keep the peace but often carry small grievances you can’t quite put into words. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Si, Hai; Strong: Zi, Shen; Fair: Yin; Neutral: Mao, Chen, You, Xu; Weak: Chou, Wei; Fallen: Wu.
Opposite the Siblings Palace is the Friends Palace (the Siblings–Friends axis: your own people and outsiders), and its triad is the Property and Health Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Friends, Life, Spouse and Property Palaces for each of the twelve branches Tian Tong can occupy in the Siblings Palace (this site gives no health readings, so the Health Palace is left out).
| Siblings Palace in | Brightness | Shares the palace with | Opposite (Friends) | Your Life Palace | Spouse | Property |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yin | Fair | Tian Liang | empty palace | Wu Qu and Qi Sha | Tian Xiang | Tian Ji |
| Mao | Neutral | alone | Tai Yin | Wu Qu | Qi Sha | Tian Ji |
| Chen | Neutral | alone | Ju Men | Wu Qu and Po Jun | empty palace | Tian Ji and Tai Yin |
| Si | Exalted | alone | Tian Liang | Wu Qu and Tian Fu | Po Jun | Tian Ji and Ju Men |
| Wu | Fallen | Tai Yin | empty palace | Wu Qu and Tan Lang | Tian Fu | Tian Ji and Tian Liang |
| Wei | Weak | Ju Men | empty palace | Wu Qu and Tian Xiang | Tan Lang | Tian Ji |
| Shen | Strong | Tian Liang | empty palace | Wu Qu and Qi Sha | Tian Xiang | Tian Ji |
| You | Neutral | alone | Tai Yin | Wu Qu | Qi Sha | Tian Ji |
| Xu | Neutral | alone | Ju Men | Wu Qu and Po Jun | empty palace | Tian Ji and Tai Yin |
| Hai | Exalted | alone | Tian Liang | Wu Qu and Tian Fu | Po Jun | Tian Ji and Ju Men |
| Zi | Strong | Tai Yin | empty palace | Wu Qu and Tan Lang | Tian Fu | Tian Ji and Tian Liang |
| Chou | Weak | Ju Men | empty palace | Wu Qu and Tian Xiang | Tan Lang | Tian Ji |
"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.
The six combinations
Tian Tong with Tai Yin (Zi or Wu)
Zi: Tian Tong strong, Tai Yin exalted; Wu: Tian Tong fallen, Tai Yin weak. Opposite (Friends): empty palace; Life: Wu Qu and Tan Lang; Spouse: Tian Fu. About 15.6% of charts with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
Your peers are gentle and sensitive, and time with them feels easy. In Zi both stars are strong and the bond is at its most settled; in Wu both are out of place, and your peers’ affairs can easily weigh on you. Further reading: Tai Yin in the Siblings Palace.
Tian Tong with Ju Men (Chou or Wei)
Chou: Tian Tong weak, Ju Men weak; Wei: Tian Tong weak, Ju Men weak. Opposite (Friends): empty palace; Life: Wu Qu and Tian Xiang; Spouse: Tan Lang. About 16.5% of charts with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
You want to get on with your peers, yet small frictions you can’t quite explain keep cropping up. Say what you mean, and don’t let grievances pile up. Further reading: Ju Men in the Siblings Palace.
Tian Tong with Tian Liang (Yin or Shen)
Yin: Tian Tong fair, Tian Liang exalted; Shen: Tian Tong strong, Tian Liang fallen. Opposite (Friends): empty palace; Life: Wu Qu and Qi Sha; Spouse: Tian Xiang. About 16.2% of charts with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
Your peers are gentle and caring, a genuinely lucky combination. The lesson is that it can get too comfortable, and important matters tend to be put off. Further reading: Tian Liang in the Siblings Palace.
Tian Tong alone, facing Tai Yin (Mao or You)
Mao: Tian Tong neutral; You: Tian Tong neutral. Opposite (Friends): Tai Yin; Life: Wu Qu; Spouse: Qi Sha. About 18.5% of charts with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
Your own people are gentle; opposite, in the Friends Palace, sits Tai Yin. With the Siblings Palace in Mao, Tai Yin opposite in You is bright and friends are considerate; with the Siblings Palace in You, Tai Yin opposite is fallen, and you and your friends can read too much into things.
Tian Tong alone, facing Ju Men (Chen or Xu)
Chen: Tian Tong neutral; Xu: Tian Tong neutral. Opposite (Friends): Ju Men; Life: Wu Qu and Po Jun; Spouse: empty palace. About 16.7% of charts with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
Your own people are easygoing; opposite, in the Friends Palace, sits Ju Men, so outside friends have plenty of opinions and plenty of gossip. A little extra patience helps.
Tian Tong alone, facing Tian Liang (Si or Hai)
Si: Tian Tong exalted; Hai: Tian Tong exalted. Opposite (Friends): Tian Liang; Life: Wu Qu and Tian Fu; Spouse: Po Jun. About 16.5% of charts with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.
Tian Tong is bright in Si and Hai, so your peers are content and cheerful; opposite, in the Friends Palace, sits Tian Liang, so there are often people outside who look after you. A lucky arrangement.
Birth-year transformations in the Siblings Palace
- Tian Tong with Hua Lu (born in a Bing year): For people born in a Bing year, Tian Tong takes Hua Lu in the Siblings Palace: time with your peers is pleasant and the bond is warm. In our sample, about 8.7% of charts with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
- Tian Tong with Hua Quan (born in a Ding year): For people born in a Ding year, Tian Tong takes Hua Quan in the Siblings Palace: even your gentle peers have firm opinions. In our sample, about 8.9% of charts with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace carry the birth-year Hua Quan.
- Tian Tong with Hua Ji (born in a Geng year): For people born in a Geng year, Tian Tong takes Hua Ji in the Siblings Palace: you want to get on with your peers but often keep things bottled up. Talk things over early. In our sample, about 10.5% of charts with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ji.
Getting along
Keeping the peace is good, but the important things need to be laid on the table.
About 41.7% of charts with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.1% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Siblings Palace usually show up as friction and strong opinions among peers, calling for more communication and clearer boundaries; they do not mean you and your siblings are at odds.
What our sample shows
How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s number of siblings or how those siblings will fare.
Other major stars in the Siblings Palace
A straight word: the Siblings Palace is about how you get on with your peers, not how many siblings you have
The Siblings Palace describes how you relate to and deal with siblings, peers, colleagues and business partners. It cannot tell you how many brothers and sisters you have, where you come in the family, or whose life will turn out better; classical verdicts such as siblings "clashing" with you or "thin sibling ties" are never used on this site. Tradition also reads ready cash from this palace; we only treat it as a reminder to take extra care when money passes between you and your peers, and it is not lending or investment advice. Everything on this site is for reference and entertainment only.
Find out which star sits in your Siblings Palace
Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Siblings Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set.
Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace: FAQ
Why does someone with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace always have Wu Qu in the Life Palace?
It comes from how the stars are placed. Wu Qu always sits one palace forward from Tian Tong, and the Life Palace always sits one palace forward from the Siblings Palace. So when Tian Tong is in the Siblings Palace, Wu Qu is always in the Life Palace.
How common is Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace?
Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.5% have Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Siblings Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.