Ju Men in the Siblings Palace: The Peers Closest to You

With Ju Men in your Siblings Palace, there is a lot of talk between you and your siblings or peers: discussion, debate and the occasional quarrel. It is rarely a quiet relationship.

Siblings and peers

People with Ju Men here tend to have peers with ideas of their own who are not afraid to speak up. The lesson is in how you communicate: being too blunt or too critical hurts feelings, but once things are talked through, the relationship ends up on firmer ground.

• With siblings: Your siblings or peers have opinions and like to voice them.
• With peers and colleagues: There is a lot of discussion among colleagues, and gossip and disputes come easily.
• Working together and partnerships: Before working together, spell out the rules in full; it beats arguing afterwards.

You and the peers around you: the Life and Siblings Palaces

When Ju Men is in the Siblings Palace, the Life Palace always holds Tian Xiang: you value rules and are good at smoothing things over, while the peers around you are talkative and love to argue. You are often the one mediating in the middle.

This is built into the chart: counting one palace forward from Ju Men always lands on Tian Xiang, and the Life Palace always sits one palace forward from the Siblings Palace. Further reading: Tian Xiang in the Life Palace.

Siblings and spouse

Counting one palace backward from Ju Men always lands on Tan Lang, and the Spouse Palace always sits one palace backward from the Siblings Palace, so anyone with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace has Tan Lang in the Spouse Palace: your closest peers and your partner are often the two relationships that sit side by side in your life. Further reading: Tan Lang in the Spouse Palace.

When Ju Men is in the Siblings Palace, the stars in the Friends Palace and the Property Palace are not fixed.

Bright and fallen positions

When Ju Men is bright, conversations go deep and your peers are people who tell you the truth. When Ju Men is fallen, there is a lot of bickering, and misunderstandings and gossip come easily. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Yin, Mao, Shen, You; Strong: Zi, Si, Wu, Hai; Weak: Chou, Wei; Fallen: Chen, Xu.

Opposite the Siblings Palace is the Friends Palace (the Siblings–Friends axis: your own people and outsiders), and its triad is the Property and Health Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Friends, Life, Spouse and Property Palaces for each of the twelve branches Ju Men can occupy in the Siblings Palace (this site gives no health readings, so the Health Palace is left out).

"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.

The six combinations

Ju Men alone, facing Tian Ji (Zi or Wu)

Zi: Ju Men strong; Wu: Ju Men strong. Opposite (Friends): Tian Ji; Life: Tian Xiang; Spouse: Lian Zhen and Tan Lang. About 16.1% of charts with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.

Your own people talk a lot and love to debate; opposite, in the Friends Palace, sits Tian Ji, so outside friends are clever and quick, and discussions often get heated.

Tian Tong with Ju Men (Chou or Wei)

Chou: Ju Men weak, Tian Tong weak; Wei: Ju Men weak, Tian Tong weak. Opposite (Friends): empty palace; Life: Wu Qu and Tian Xiang; Spouse: Tan Lang. About 16.8% of charts with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.

You want to get on with your peers, yet small frictions you can’t quite explain keep cropping up. Say what you mean, and don’t let grievances pile up. Further reading: Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace.

Tai Yang with Ju Men (Yin or Shen)

Yin: Ju Men exalted, Tai Yang strong; Shen: Ju Men exalted, Tai Yang favorable. Opposite (Friends): empty palace; Life: Tian Xiang; Spouse: Wu Qu and Tan Lang. About 17.3% of charts with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.

Your peers talk a lot and interact a lot, valuing both loyalty and reasoned argument. In Yin, Tai Yang is bright and communication is open; in Shen, watch out for quarrels and misunderstandings. Further reading: Tai Yang in the Siblings Palace.

Tian Ji with Ju Men (Mao or You)

Mao: Ju Men exalted, Tian Ji strong; You: Ju Men exalted, Tian Ji strong. Opposite (Friends): empty palace; Life: Zi Wei and Tian Xiang; Spouse: Tan Lang. About 16.3% of charts with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.

There is a lot of discussion and debate among your peers: sharp, but prone to nitpicking. Once things are talked through, you actually grow closer. Further reading: Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace.

Ju Men alone, facing Tian Tong (Chen or Xu)

Chen: Ju Men fallen; Xu: Ju Men fallen. Opposite (Friends): Tian Tong; Life: Tian Xiang; Spouse: Zi Wei and Tan Lang. About 16.2% of charts with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.

Ju Men is fallen in Chen and Xu, so there is more bickering among your peers; opposite, in the Friends Palace, sits Tian Tong, so outside friends are mild and often act as a buffer.

Ju Men alone, facing Tai Yang (Si or Hai)

Si: Ju Men strong; Hai: Ju Men strong. Opposite (Friends): Tai Yang; Life: Lian Zhen and Tian Xiang; Spouse: Tan Lang. About 17.3% of charts with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace fall into this group.

There is a lot of talk among your own people. With the Siblings Palace in Hai, Tai Yang opposite in Si is bright, so outside friends are open and there is little gossip; with the Siblings Palace in Si, Tai Yang opposite is fallen, and misunderstandings come more easily both inside and out.

Birth-year transformations in the Siblings Palace

• Ju Men with Hua Lu (born in a Xin year): For people born in a Xin year, Ju Men takes Hua Lu in the Siblings Palace: you and your peers communicate easily and can clear the air. In our sample, about 12.0% of charts with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
• Ju Men with Hua Quan (born in a Gui year): For people born in a Gui year, Ju Men takes Hua Quan in the Siblings Palace: among your peers is someone whose words carry real weight. In our sample, about 10.4% of charts with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace carry the birth-year Hua Quan.
• Ju Men with Hua Ji (born in a Ding year): For people born in a Ding year, Ju Men takes Hua Ji in the Siblings Palace: quarrels and misunderstandings with peers come easily. Hear the other person out before you reply. In our sample, about 8.8% of charts with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ji.

Getting along

Swap "you’re wrong" for "here’s how I see it".

About 42.9% of charts with Ju Men in the Siblings Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.1% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Siblings Palace usually show up as friction and strong opinions among peers, calling for more communication and clearer boundaries; they do not mean you and your siblings are at odds.

What our sample shows

How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s number of siblings or how those siblings will fare.

Other major stars in the Siblings Palace