Ju Men in the Friends Palace: What Kind of Friends Surround You
Ju Men in the Friends Palace means a lot of talk and a lot of opinions among your friends: lively debates, and also arguments and misunderstandings.
Friends, colleagues and team
People with Ju Men here tend to have friends with firm views who speak their minds. The lesson is how you communicate: being too blunt or too critical hurts friendships, but once things are talked through, the bond ends up on firmer ground.
- Your circle: Friends with firm views; lots of discussion.
- Colleagues and team: Colleagues and team members with many opinions, who need clear rules for how you talk things through.
- Network and mutual help: Friends give you frank, unvarnished advice.
You and your circle: the Life and Friends Palaces
With Ju Men in the Friends Palace, the Life Palace always holds Po Jun: you are bold and ready to change things, while the friends you make talk a lot and love to argue.
This is built into the chart: counting five palaces backward from Ju Men always lands on Po Jun, and the Life Palace always sits five palaces backward from the Friends Palace. Further reading: Po Jun in the Life Palace.
Your work network: the Career and Friends Palaces
Counting one palace backward from Ju Men always lands on Tan Lang, and the Career Palace always sits one palace backward from the Friends Palace, so with Ju Men in the Friends Palace the Career Palace always holds Tan Lang: your circle sits right next to your work, and many of your connections grow out of it. Further reading: Tan Lang in the Career Palace.
With Ju Men in the Friends Palace, the Travel Palace always holds Tian Xiang: out in the world you follow the rules and know where the lines are, while your circle is full of competing opinions. The Siblings Palace star is not fixed.
Bright and fallen positions
When bright, conversations go deep and friends tell you the truth. When fallen, there is a lot of arguing, with misunderstandings and gossip. Brightness by branch, from the table of the Complete Book this site uses: Exalted: Yin, Mao, Shen, You; Strong: Zi, Si, Wu, Hai; Weak: Chou, Wei; Fallen: Chen, Xu.
Opposite the Friends Palace is the Siblings Palace (the Siblings–Friends axis: outsiders and your own people), and its trine is the Children and Parents Palaces; on either side sit the Career and Travel Palaces. The table shows the major stars of the Siblings, Life, Career and Travel Palaces for each of the twelve branches Ju Men can occupy in the Friends Palace.
| Friends Palace in | Brightness | Shares the palace with | Opposite (Siblings) | Your Life Palace | Career | Travel |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yin | Exalted | Tai Yang | empty palace | Lian Zhen and Po Jun | Wu Qu and Tan Lang | Tian Xiang |
| Mao | Exalted | Tian Ji | empty palace | Po Jun | Tan Lang | Zi Wei and Tian Xiang |
| Chen | Fallen | alone | Tian Tong | Wu Qu and Po Jun | Zi Wei and Tan Lang | Tian Xiang |
| Si | Strong | alone | Tai Yang | Po Jun | Tan Lang | Lian Zhen and Tian Xiang |
| Wu | Strong | alone | Tian Ji | Zi Wei and Po Jun | Lian Zhen and Tan Lang | Tian Xiang |
| Wei | Weak | Tian Tong | empty palace | Po Jun | Tan Lang | Wu Qu and Tian Xiang |
| Shen | Exalted | Tai Yang | empty palace | Lian Zhen and Po Jun | Wu Qu and Tan Lang | Tian Xiang |
| You | Exalted | Tian Ji | empty palace | Po Jun | Tan Lang | Zi Wei and Tian Xiang |
| Xu | Fallen | alone | Tian Tong | Wu Qu and Po Jun | Zi Wei and Tan Lang | Tian Xiang |
| Hai | Strong | alone | Tai Yang | Po Jun | Tan Lang | Lian Zhen and Tian Xiang |
| Zi | Strong | alone | Tian Ji | Zi Wei and Po Jun | Lian Zhen and Tan Lang | Tian Xiang |
| Chou | Weak | Tian Tong | empty palace | Po Jun | Tan Lang | Wu Qu and Tian Xiang |
"Empty palace" means the palace has none of the fourteen major stars; in that case you read it through the stars of the opposite palace.
The six combinations
Ju Men alone, facing Tian Ji (Zi or Wu)
Zi: Ju Men strong; Wu: Ju Men strong. Opposite Siblings: Tian Ji; Life: Zi Wei and Po Jun; Career: Lian Zhen and Tan Lang. About 18.5% of charts with Ju Men in the Friends Palace fall into this group.
Friends from outside talk a lot and love to argue; with Tian Ji in the Siblings Palace opposite, the people closest to you are clever and quick, and discussions often get heated.
Tian Tong with Ju Men (Chou or Wei)
Chou: Ju Men weak, Tian Tong weak; Wei: Ju Men weak, Tian Tong weak. Opposite Siblings: empty palace; Life: Po Jun; Career: Tan Lang. About 15.5% of charts with Ju Men in the Friends Palace fall into this group.
You want to get on well with friends, yet small frictions keep coming up that are hard to put into words. Say what you mean, and do not let grievances pile up. Further reading: Tian Tong in the Friends Palace.
Tai Yang with Ju Men (Yin or Shen)
Yin: Ju Men exalted, Tai Yang strong; Shen: Ju Men exalted, Tai Yang favorable. Opposite Siblings: empty palace; Life: Lian Zhen and Po Jun; Career: Wu Qu and Tan Lang. About 17.1% of charts with Ju Men in the Friends Palace fall into this group.
Friends talk a lot and interact a lot, big on loyalty and on reasoning things out. In Yin, Tai Yang is strong and communication is open; in Shen, watch for arguments and misunderstandings. Further reading: Tai Yang in the Friends Palace.
Tian Ji with Ju Men (Mao or You)
Mao: Ju Men exalted, Tian Ji strong; You: Ju Men exalted, Tian Ji strong. Opposite Siblings: empty palace; Life: Po Jun; Career: Tan Lang. About 16.3% of charts with Ju Men in the Friends Palace fall into this group.
There is a lot of discussion and debate among friends: clever, but prone to nitpicking and arguments. Once things are talked through, you end up closer. Further reading: Tian Ji in the Friends Palace.
Ju Men alone, facing Tian Tong (Chen or Xu)
Chen: Ju Men fallen; Xu: Ju Men fallen. Opposite Siblings: Tian Tong; Life: Wu Qu and Po Jun; Career: Zi Wei and Tan Lang. About 16.6% of charts with Ju Men in the Friends Palace fall into this group.
Ju Men is fallen in Chen and Xu, so there are more arguments among friends; with Tian Tong in the Siblings Palace opposite, the people closest to you are gentle and often act as a buffer.
Ju Men alone, facing Tai Yang (Si or Hai)
Si: Ju Men strong; Hai: Ju Men strong. Opposite Siblings: Tai Yang; Life: Po Jun; Career: Tan Lang. About 16.0% of charts with Ju Men in the Friends Palace fall into this group.
There is a lot of talk among friends. With the Friends Palace in Hai, Tai Yang opposite in Si is strong, the people closest to you are open and there is little gossip; in Si, Tai Yang opposite is fallen and misunderstandings come more easily both inside and outside.
Birth-year transformations in the Friends Palace
- Ju Men with Hua Lu (born in a Xin year): People born in a Xin year have Ju Men Hua Lu in the Friends Palace: talking with friends goes smoothly and things get aired. In our sample, about 11.7% of charts with Ju Men in the Friends Palace carry the birth-year Hua Lu.
- Ju Men with Hua Quan (born in a Gui year): People born in a Gui year have Ju Men Hua Quan in the Friends Palace: among your friends are people whose words carry real weight. In our sample, about 10.3% of charts with Ju Men in the Friends Palace carry the birth-year Hua Quan.
- Ju Men with Hua Ji (born in a Ding year): People born in a Ding year have Ju Men Hua Ji in the Friends Palace: arguments and misunderstandings with friends come easily. Hear them out before you speak. In our sample, about 8.0% of charts with Ju Men in the Friends Palace carry the birth-year Hua Ji.
Friendship advice
Swap "you're wrong" for "here is how I see it".
About 41.8% of charts with Ju Men in the Friends Palace also have at least one of the six Sha stars in that palace, about the same as the 42.4% across all charts. Malefic stars in the Friends Palace usually show up as more friction and more differing opinions in your circle, which calls for firmer boundaries and more talking things through; they do not mean your friends are bad.
What our sample shows
How we counted: this site’s engine cast one Zi Wei chart for every day from 1960 to 2005 (birth hour drawn by a fixed-seed random sample), 16,802 charts in all. These figures describe how chart structures are distributed; they do not measure anyone’s popularity or how reliable their friends are.
Other major stars in the Friends Palace
A straight word: the Friends Palace is about how you make friends, not about who will do you harm
The Friends Palace describes your circle of friends, your colleagues and your team, and the way you interact with them. It cannot tell you which friend is reliable or who might work against you; classical warnings about "petty people" are not used on this site. Lending money to friends, guaranteeing their debts or going into business together should be judged on the actual situation: nothing on this site amounts to lending, guarantee or investment advice, and everything here is for reference and entertainment only.
Find out which star sits in your Friends Palace
Enter your date of birth and birth time to cast your chart, then tap the Friends Palace to see its major stars, transformations and four-way set.
Ju Men in the Friends Palace: FAQ
Why is Po Jun always in the Life Palace when Ju Men is in the Friends Palace?
It follows from how the stars are placed. Counting five palaces backward from Ju Men always lands on Po Jun, and the Life Palace always sits five palaces backward from the Friends Palace. So whenever Ju Men is in the Friends Palace, Po Jun is always in the Life Palace.
How common is Ju Men in the Friends Palace?
Across the 16,802 charts in our sample, about 8.5% have Ju Men in the Friends Palace (alone or sharing it with another major star). Each of the fourteen major stars lands in the Friends Palace roughly 8–9% of the time.