Yue Lao Oracle Lot 61 · Good
不知其人,視其友。 If you do not know the person, look at their friends.
The lot
不知其人
If you do not know the person
視其友
look at their friends
| Lot | Grade | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Lot 61 第六十一籤 | Good 上 | From Xunzi, "Human Nature Is Bad" (also in the School Sayings of Confucius, "Six Roots") 語出《荀子・性惡》(亦見《孔子家語・六本》) |
Text notes (in Chinese): 《荀子》原作「不知其子視其友」.
Background: what the original says
Xunzi cites an old saying: if you do not understand someone, look at the friends they keep and you will know.
"Know a man by his friends" turns up in several early Chinese texts. At the close of the chapter "Human Nature Is Bad" in the Xunzi, the Confucian thinker Xunzi argues that character is shaped by the company one keeps: good teachers and upright friends improve you without your noticing. He then quotes an old saying: if you do not know a son, look at his friends; if you do not know a ruler, look at those around him.
The Kongzi Jiayu (School Sayings of Confucius) has Confucius predicting that after his death his disciple Zixia would keep growing while Zigong would slip, because Zixia sought out people better than himself and Zigong preferred those who were not. Sima Qian, in the Records of the Grand Historian, closes one of his biographies with the same proverb. Choosing a partner means getting to know a whole person, which is how this old rule of thumb found its way into the Old Man under the Moon's oracle.
What it means
If you want to understand the other person, take a look at their circle of friends.
Reminder: Get to know the other person's friends.
This is a plain reading of the words and their source. How it applies to your own question is best settled with the interpreter at the temple where you drew it.
How to ask Yue Lao for a lot
- Yue Lao, the Old Man under the Moon, usually has a side shrine inside a larger temple, such as a City God temple or a Mazu temple. Follow the temple's route: pay respects to the main deity first, then go to Yue Lao.
- Tell Yue Lao your name, birth date and address, describe where you are in love right now, and state the one question you want to ask (for example, "Will this relationship last?" or "When will I meet someone?").
- Cast the moon blocks (jiaobei, two crescent-shaped wooden blocks) to ask whether you may draw. One face up and one face down means yes; then pull one stick and cast again to confirm it. Many temples ask for three yeses in a row; if not, draw again.
- Collect the slip with the matching number. Yue Lao lots are quotations from old books, so the meaning often depends on the original passage. If it is unclear, ask the temple's interpreter.
Ask about one thing at a time; the more specific the question, the easier the lot is to apply. Yue Lao lots are for love and marriage only; for other matters, use the temple's general fortune poems.
Common misunderstandings
A "poor" lot means the relationship is hopeless.
The grade is only a broad direction. Yue Lao lots mostly point to attitude and approach, and the same lot means different things for different questions.
You can keep drawing on the same question until you get a good lot.
By custom you ask once per matter. If you are still unsure, ask the temple's interpreter, or wait a while and ask again.
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Yue Lao oracle Lot 61: questions
What does Yue Lao oracle Lot 61 say?
「不知其人,視其友。」 In English: If you do not know the person, look at their friends. It is graded good and comes from From Xunzi, "Human Nature Is Bad" (also in the School Sayings of Confucius, "Six Roots").
What does Yue Lao oracle Lot 61 mean?
If you want to understand the other person, take a look at their circle of friends. Reminder: Get to know the other person's friends.